A proud brother writes. letter to Bill Bowen. (page 4)

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Judging by this guy's grammar, writing style and incoherence... he is obviously an "armchair scholar".

I'd love to see his credentials regarding his "Hebrew Language Education".

He reminds me of how Fred Franz lied about his "Hebrew Language Education".

Fred. W. Franz (1893 - 1992) was regarded as the best scholar of all the Jehovah's Witnesses' leaders. He was responsible for the Jehovah's Witnesses Bible-translation NWT (New World Translation).
Attorney. ?Have you made yourself familiar with Hebrew?
Franz. ?Yes?
Attorney . ?So you have a substantial linguistic apparatus at your command??
Franz. ?Yes, for use in my biblical work?
Attorney ?I think you are able to read the Bible in Hebrew, Greek, Latin, Spanish, Portuguese, German and French??
Franz. ?Yes? (pursuer?s proof page 7)
Attorney ?You yourself read and speak Hebrew do you??
Franz. ?I do not speak Hebrew?
Attorney . ?You do not??
Franz. ?No?
Attorney ?Can you yourself translate that into Hebrew??
Franz. ? Which??
Attorney ?The fourth verse of the second chapter of Genesis?
Franz. ?You mean here??
Attorney . ?Yes?
Franz. ?No I wouldn?t attempt to do that? (pursuer?s proof page 102)

(The passage he was being asked to translate was a simple exercise with which an average first or second year Hebrew student in seminary would have no difficulty with. This conclusion was stated
by a qualified teacher of Hebrew. More untruths followed..)

Attorney ?I think you yourself left Cinncinnati University without taking a degree, as Mr. Leslie elicited, but I do not think you told us of one other matter. Is it the case that you sat for and were offered a Rhodes Scholarship??
Franz. ?Yes, I was offered a Cecil Rhodes Scholarship, I took an examination for that in the University of Ohio, the State University at Columbus, Ohio.
Attorney . ?What year was that when you were nominated for a Rhodes Scholarship?
Franz. ?That was in 1914, but in view of my decision as to the ministry as one of Jehovah?s Witnesses, I turned that down?

William J. Barber - Secretary of THE RHODES SCHOLARSHIP TRUST said however: ?I have checked our records and do not find that Frederick Franz was elected to a Rhodes Scholarship?

I think we see from the same side, Annie, we just have differing perspectives attributable to our different backgrounds. In the case of the national charity I alluded to, very low level management people were driving Mercedes Benz cars that were paid for by the charity, salaries of management were very extravagant, etc.. It disgusted me; hence my doubts with respect to any charity that doesn't disclose audited financial statements to the public (WT doesn't disclose its audited financial statements either, probably because the "great crowd" of pigeons would likely fly away if they really knew the whole picture).

An excerpt from the Silentlambs website follows:

"All work is voluntary and no salary is taken for personal benefit. When you support silentlambs your donation goes 100% to abuse survivors and programs to protect children."

This claim is very difficult for me to believe. When I see that audited financial statements corroborate this claim, I'll get out my checkbook.

Poztate

Sorry, but I don't buy into the SilentLambs bandwagon. I'd like to see their financial statements, which, similar to the Watchtower financial statements, are not available to those interested in contributing money to this cause.

Maybe there is a problem.. However you should think of what Bill Bowen had to give up to get Silentlambs up and running.

He had to be rejected by everyone in his former life at the KH. He was DF'ed. He was also shunned by his own family members. He had to in fact start a whole new life for himself and his wife. If anyone wishes to think that he or most people could do that with only monetary gain as the reward that is their right.

I will reserve judgement and support him the best I can while he fights the evil empire...The WTBTS

Raphael

While not a JW apologist, I doubt that the letter was written by a Witness in "good standing", my bet judging by the style and phraseology in the content of the letter , is that it has been purposefully written with a particular agenda in mind...

If my suspicions are correct then the person who has written the letter does his/her cause a great diservice...

Sunspot

** An excerpt from the Silentlambs website follows:

"All work is voluntary and no salary is taken for personal benefit. When you support silentlambs your donation goes 100% to abuse survivors and programs to protect children."

I appreciate your reply, however----just because some people are money-grabbing sheisters, doesn't automatically make it true of everyone.

I have no basis or reason to think that Bill & SL are anything less than honest. If and when I am proven wrong on this count, I'll see that I was wrong and act accordingly.

It still boils down to what we're most comfortable with, huh?

Annie

144001

Poztate,

I never made the assertion that Mr. Bowen's Silentlamb activities were done with "only monetary gain as the reward." Accordingly, I won't respond to your comments relating thereto.

Most of us who have had the experience of breaking away from the Watchtower cult have suffered the same or worse consequences as those you cited on Mr. Bowen's behalf. How are such hardships relevant to the question of what Silentlambs does with the money it receives?

ColdRedRain

Anybody find it ironic that the guy that claims to know hebrew can't even use proper English grammar?

Poztate

I'd like to see Silentlambs provide audited financial statements, disclosing in detail the revenues and expenses of that organization. Somehow I doubt that will happen

144000... whenever you say "I doubt that will happen" you are in effect calling into question the man...Bill Bowen and his motives.Try not to hide behind words and just spit it out if you think he is a crook and is trying to make money off the "apostate community"

I think he is doing the best he can with what he has and he doesn't need knives in his back right now

Sunspot

144000... whenever you say "I doubt that will happen" you are in effect calling into question the man...Bill Bowen and his motives.Try not to hide behind words and just spit it out if you think he is a crook and is trying to make money off the "apostate community"
I think he is doing the best he can with what he has and he doesn't need knives in his back right now

Poztate,

I agree. I didn't want to "start" anything, nor did I want to take the time to explain all that Bill HAD experienced (American Idol and Amazing Race will be starting soon :0), but I felt the same way as you did in your reply. I just didn't know how to word it. Thanks.

hugs,

Annie

Balsam

Rantings of the ignorant and blind followers of the WTS. Good grief that was almost as stupid a comment as I made in the past about JW discussion back some years ago. Thank goodness reading here helped me wake up out the self induced coma I was in.

Balsam

A proud brother writes. letter to Bill Bowen.

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