Fifty Per Cent Of Personal Bankruptcy Claims in US Due To Medical Costs

by hillary_step 51 Replies latest jw friends

  • hillary_step
    hillary_step

    Hello,

    I was stunned by this dismal piece that I read in Forbes magazine recently.

    Coming from the UK it is astonishing to me that an affluent nation as is the US, cannot provide better protection for the health and welfare of its citizens. I was especially astonished by the fact that insurance companies withdraw their coverage while a person is sick and in need of help. What happens to a person who has no cash and no insurance?

    Is this report accurate? If so, what has gone wrong?

    HS

    Medical Problems Cause Half of Personal Bankruptcies By Karen Pallarito HealthDay Reporter

    WEDNESDAY, Feb. 2 (HealthDayNews) -- Illness and medical bills contributed to roughly half the personal bankruptcy filings in 2001, affecting as many as 2.2 million Americans, a new Harvard study says.

    More than 75 percent of the filers had insurance, but many of them lost coverage during their illness, the research showed.

    The study, which appears in the Feb. 2 issue of Health Affairs, provides a rare -- and stark -- glimpse into the medical causes of bankruptcy in the United States.

    People who succumb to medical debt are mostly middle-class or working-class people who own their own homes and have at least some college education, the study found.

    "I think the message that we take away is, really, nobody is safe in our country. Short of (Microsoft

    Chairman) Bill Gates, if you're sick enough long enough, you're likely to be financially ruined,"

    cautioned study author Dr. David Himmelstein, an associate professor of medicine at Harvard Medical School.

    "We're all one serious illness away from bankruptcy,"

    he added.

    Carol Pryor, a senior policy analyst at The Access Project in Boston, has studied the issue of medical debt and its "ripple effect" on people's lives. It can ruin an individual's credit and make it difficult to obtain and pay for medical appointments, she said. And as more health-care costs get shifted to consumers in the form of higher premiums, deductibles and co-insurance, the problem is only likely to escalate, she added.

    "The medical debt issue is interesting," Pryor said, "because it just points up so many fault lines in our system."

    With the cooperation of bankruptcy judges in five federal districts, the study authors distributed questionnaires to debtors at their mandatory meetings with court-appointed trustees. A total of 1,250 questionnaires -- 250 per district -- were collected, providing data on demographics, housing and specific reasons for filing bankruptcy.

    Additional information from 521 homeowners filing for bankruptcy boosted the total sample to 1,771.

    Follow-up telephone interviews were completed with 931 families.

    More than a quarter of those surveyed cited illness or injury as the specific reason for bankruptcy. When investigators examined how frequently illness and medical bills contributed to bankruptcy, the percentages swelled.

    Close to half met the researchers' definition of a "major medical bankruptcy," meaning they either cited illness or injury as a specific reason for bankruptcy, had more than $1,000 in uncovered medical bills in the past two years, lost at least two weeks of income from work due to illness or injury, or mortgaged a home to pay medical bills.

    More than half met the criteria for "any medical bankruptcy." This group included people who had a major medical bankruptcy or anyone reporting addiction, uncontrolled gambling, birth of a child, or death of a family member as a cause of bankruptcy.

    Medical debtors were much more likely than other bankruptcy filers to have experienced a gap in health insurance coverage, the study revealed.

    In follow-up interviews, researchers found that the people whose bankruptcy had a medical cause were more likely than other debtors to do without such basic necessities as phone service, water or electricity or food. Three-fifths went without a needed doctor or dentist visit, while nearly half failed to fill a prescription.

    Among policymakers and opinion leaders, there's little dispute that the nation's employer-based health insurance system is flawed and vast agreement that something needs to be done to help the more than 43 million Americans who lack insurance coverage.

    But that's where the consensus ends and philosophical divisions begin. To ameliorate the problem of medical bankruptcy, the authors of the new research argue for a national insurance system divorced from the existing job-based insurance model.

    Others favor targeted, incremental fixes. The Bush administration, for example, proposes making greater use of health savings accounts and allowing businesses to band together to offer health insurance coverage through "association health plans."

    "That's part of the solution," agreed Grace-Marie Turner, founder and president of the Galen Institute, a research organization that promotes free-market ideas in health care. She also endorses the Bush plan to allow people to buy insurance across state lines.

    "It's just so important that people have more choice to buy the kind of insurance they know protects them,"

    she said.

    Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich also has a vision for reforming health care. In Saving Lives & Saving

    Money: Transforming Health and Healthcare, he and co-authors Anne Woodbury and Dana Pavey propose, in part, a national reinsurance pool to spread the risk of insuring people who incur extremely high medical costs.

    "It's another something to try that is more aligned with the American value set," said Woodbury, chief health advocate of Gingrich's Center for Health Transformation in Washington.

    But proponents of a national health system disagree.

    Health savings accounts, which are tied to high-deductible health plans, have the potential to skim away affluent, healthier individuals, leaving sicker people in traditional health plans and putting them at risk of higher premiums, Pryor said.

    Meantime, Himmelstein suggests Canada's low rate of medical bankruptcy is the result of a better medical and social insurance system. Every other developed nation has solved the problem, he asserted. "Why should Americans have second-class health care?"

  • Dustin
    Dustin

    I wish we had a better health care system in the U.S. If you don't have insurance, you're screwed.

    Dustin

  • stillajwexelder
    stillajwexelder

    and guess which state is the bankruptcy capital of the US -Good old Missouri

  • jeanniebeanz
    jeanniebeanz

    With the cost of a decent health care plan in excess of $600.00 per month for a family, it's not surprising... Even with insurance, so many commonly prescribed medications and treatments are not covered, you end up paying the $600.00, plus your deductible, plus your co-pay and by then you're toast.

    Sad.

    Jean

  • hillary_step
    hillary_step

    Hello,

    Thank you for your comments. The Canadian medical system is by no means perfect. It is overburdened, underfunded with waiting lists verging on the cruel but for around $50.00 a month you get complete coverage.

    What happens to a person who is sick, uninsured and poor? Is there any sort of 'State' treatment that they can rely on? It seems to be that no country can claim to be civilized if it cannot, or will not take care of its sick and old citizens.

    Power to the peeeeeple!

    Best regards - HS

  • jst2laws
    jst2laws

    HS,

    The medical system is b y no means perfect. It is overburdened, underfunded with waiting lists verging on the cruel but for around $50.00 a month you get complete coverage.

    For my wife and I, and my youngest son, we pay over $800 (out of pocket) per month for our health care policy. We are glad to have this policy because if we got cancelled at our age, both with high blood pressure, and both over weight, we would not be able to get insurance at all as self employed.

    The US cannot seem to aford socialized heath care like you have in Canada because we have this expensive mission of forcing democracy on the world.

    Jst2laws

  • bikerchic
    bikerchic
    What happens to a person who has no cash and no insurance?

    You are screwed period. Insurance is a sham and a mockery so is the high price of medical care. Good grief years ago while I was in the hospital I paid something like $12.00 for one Tylenol I could have bought a case of Tylenol for $12.00 back then. It's just gotten worse too and for what? To line the pockets of Doctors so they can drive their expensive cars and live in their expensive houses. They way over charge and tell you it's for malpractice costs of their medical insurance and so it goes.......the solution stay healthy, if you don't, die quickly!

  • SixofNine
    SixofNine

    We Americans are the only ones who understand that an ounce of freedom is worth a pound of heart disease!

  • one
    one

    the issue burned me from two sides..

    two of my family members, not living with me, were so dedicated to the WT (side 1) they did nothing to cover for health care (insurance) or any other obvious human need for that matter.

    I ended up paying a private health insurance to take care of them..., thanks WT

    The state provides basic education for "free", (not really nothing is free from any gov.)

    BUT many gov, including usa (side 2) do not provide "free" health care, not only that but gov do a very poor job when it comes to "educate" about health, it is only 2+2 and ABC.

    If you loose your MENTAL or physical health, there is no much you can do, even having received a good "education' previously in other field, it shows how important is to be "educated" about health.

    Let say that in other words: we are very poorly educated about health, we should thank the gov and the junk food industry.

    BTW do you know how Cuba is doing in the two departments mentioned above?, (health and education)

    Bu again if we ignorant about anything of importance, it is mainly our fault... that include not only the the reason for joinin the wt but staying in it./

    Back to the topic if the gov does not provide healh care as we think it should, who is to blame, dont people choose gov every 4?

    dont you a right to ask a potential presidential candidate to do something about it?,( to include it in his proposed gov program....)

    babyboomers if you feel the pain... "they" will hear you. "hell no we wont pay"

  • one
    one

    Can i say one more thing? i know is off topic but within the scope of this forum...

    I was DF when doing it but did not file for banckrupcy because of if but later almost had to, because of the attitude of jw relatives (including the insured) and their jw "brothers" and "siters"

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