Fifty Per Cent Of Personal Bankruptcy Claims in US Due To Medical Costs

by hillary_step 51 Replies latest jw friends

  • fairchild
    fairchild

    This is my solution..

    Give everyone who does have health care a completely FREE choice as to which doctor they want to go to. (Now, most people who have benefits can only go to doctors who are part of that particular health care plan). So, anyone should be totally free in their choice of doctors. Then, do away with the ridiculous amounts doctors have to pay in order to protect themselves against lawsuits.

    Doctors are human, they can and will make mistakes. However, if you have a free choice of which doctor to put your trust in, and this doctor makes a mistake, you will need to live with the consequences, like people in many other countries do. (Unless the mistake was due to serious neglect of course) It sounds harsh, I know, but it would solve a lot of health care problems. Once the doctors were freed of those huge sums they have to pay, they should start asking the patient much less money for a visit. I recently paid $890 for ONE X-ray. I'm sure that $150 would have covered it generously!

    There, I think this should be the first step in improving the whole health insurance issue.

  • hillary_step
    hillary_step

    Well, it looks like the American people have much more pain ahead of them :

  • IronGland
    IronGland
    Actually, the US isn't an affluent country. It is a country with a small percentage of very affluent people. Citizens of many, many other countries are much better off because they have social and medical welfare that everyone contributes too. A completely private system does not work IMO (or at least the US model doesn't).

    The *real* average pay of the average Joe hasn't gone up in the last 30 years even though the economy may have - the proportion that CEOs and the like have taken out has rocketed though.

    Ray-gun claimed that a rising tide lifted all the boats but I think the reality is that many just get sunk.

    The real problem with the US though is how letigious everyone is and the whole legal system is just a drain on society.

    LOL. I think you have some type of filter that alerts you to any mention of the United States in a post and there you are telling how awful it is. If I remember correctly you took a trip to Florida last year and I assume you have a subscription to the Guardian. I've been debating taking a short trip to Wales in the near future. When I return I shall make it my goal to educate all citizens of the UK on all aspects of UK life.

  • jwbot
    jwbot

    IronClad, how is that info wrong?

    As a person with no health insurance, I earn too much to get any assistance. I am a college student that works, I am not considered independant so my parents income is used against me. I live on my own, pay my own bills, taxes, etc. Too poor for a certain prescription drug I need ($200/mo) so my lovely doctor just keeps giving me samples..otherwise I am way too poor. I can barely afford heating. But if I have to pay $800, $400 a month, for health insurance...then I will just have to try very hard to not get cancer!!!

  • hillary_step
    hillary_step

    Irongland,

    I assume you have a subscription to the Guardian.

    I presume that you are indicating by that comment that you believe the Guardian not to be given to sympathising with the US or its people?

    If so, perhaps you might comment on the information that it has published in the embedded link noted above. For example, is it accurate information or has the Guardian fabricated it?

    Best regards - HS

  • IronGland
    IronGland

    Ladies,

    I was simply using the previous post by Simon to espouse my theory that Simon likes to bash the US. In this particular case I would concede that he does have a point. I also read the Guardian and it was not my intent to question their journalistic integrity.

    **Hillary, if that is not your name and is a reference to Mt Everest, forgive me for including you in the term 'ladies'. Although you could be a lady with an interest in mountaineering.**

  • FlyingHighNow
    FlyingHighNow

    This is the book I mentioned:

    Critical Condition : How Health Care in America Became Big Business--and Bad Medicineby Donald L. Barlett , James B. Steele

  • FlyingHighNow
    FlyingHighNow
    FlyingHigh-Thank you for the link - very interesting reading.

    You're welcome. I'm glad you were able to look at it. Americans and apparently a lot of the rest of the world are being fed a lot of propaganda about the real reasons for our high medical costs. As long as people so easily believe it, things will only get worse.

    I am also aware of the Canadian view of the US reactions to allowing its citizens to purchase its medicines from Canada at a lower, but still expensive price. Bush pronounced that the reason for this is that there was no way of checking whether the medicines were defective, ignoring the fact that these medicines are manufactured in the satellite plants of US manufacturers.

    Bush knows that a lot of those drugs were sold to Canada, by the drug companies that made them, at much cheaper prices. He can get away with this because he knows very few Americans are educated on health care cost issues and so won't raise any objections.

    Tell. me. If a person has been diagnosed for example with a cancer and receives treatment under their insurance scheme, what happens in the following year? Does the insurance company raise its premiums, or can it even refuse to cover that person again?

    Best regards - HS

    I know that insurance companies can pressure companies to phase out employees with high medical bills.I see that with my current employer all the time.

    I also know companies can refuse to cover dependents with chronic illnesses. This has happened to me when my exhusband changed companies. Lloyds of London was the underwriter for the company funded insurance program. Lloyds told them not to cover me at all. I needed coverage very badly.

    I know that if you own a private policy, your premiums will climb sky high to the point eventually that you can't afford to pay them anymore(If you cost them too much in claims, especially with a chronic or terminal illness). I have relatives in private business who pay as premiums ranging from $800 to over $1000 a month. The reason the premiums are so high is that one brother in law has severe heart disease and his wife has had breast cancer. The other the one, my dad's wife, she's British, has had cancer in the past. They know that if they ever let these premiums lapse, it will be very hard to ever get health coverage again.

    My exhusband and I were finally forced into bankruptcy due to losing our health insurance. We had over $50,000 in medical bills and other circumstances were finally the straw that broke the camel's back so to speak.

    We know it can't go on like this forever. Sooner or later this privatized medical care system will cause enough crises and economic hardship that something will have to be done about it. That day will be slower in coming though as long as people accept what medical care companies, professionals, politicians and the media hand them.

    I'm not up to proofreading this: it's late. Hope it makes sense.

  • FlyingHighNow
    FlyingHighNow
    Well, it looks like the American people have much more pain ahead of them :

    What can I say? Bush and those like him are like cannibals feeding off the poor, the working poor and middle class. After they are through devouring us, who do they think is going to support them?

    I was on the bike at the Y this afternoon. One of the TVs had something about Jeb Bush and 2008. I'm shaking my head and hoping this is all horrible rumor. We've heard noises like this before.

    Here's a repeat for those looking at the threaded version of this thread:

    This is the book I mentioned:

    Critical Condition : How Health Care in America Became Big Business--and Bad Medicine by Donald L. Barlett , James B. Steele

  • Panda
    Panda

    The drug companies do their best to maintain their Chiefs in a sublime manner. We are old and w/o insurance. My meds alone cost over $500. per month (scary huh?) It's bleak.

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