New Software Program Purports to Prove Evolution (page 3)

frankiespeakin

IT will be interesting to see future developments in the software department and as computors get more powerfull.

I think in the furture they will be sucessful,,, take a look at fractals we would not know they were there were it not for computers,,I'm realtively sure DNA uses some type of fractal formula/formulas.

Pole

"And as you can see, Gentleman, the program behaves precisely as we predicted it would."

That doesn't have to be as stupid as it sounds. Sometimes overcoming a quantitative barrier makes a qualitative difference. Actually that's what computing is all about.

Pole

Lostreality

Hmmm...by generation 5000 the average age of the pop was 176 years old....but thats just my setup...

PointBlank

Hi Mary, you asked:

if we came from apes, then why the hell are there still apes around but no ape-men??

If memory serves me right (it's been a couple of years since studying evolution) evolution doesn't teach that man came from apes, but that both evolved independently from a common ancestor. Anybody that knows evolution better...feel free to correct me if that's wrong.

PB

jaredg

yes you are correct. evoluation is not linear...think of it as a bush. apes and humans came from the same branch, thus the same origion, but we co-exist as do smaller branches of a larger main branch.

upside/down

I'm sorry but it cracks me up how on the one hand someone can argue to the death that we are products of a non(divine)-guided evolution and are therefore products of chance,

yet on the other hand state how in-humane we as a species are and talk of love, extinction etc.

If true blind "evolution" is in fact reality (which I have doubts), than the only law is "SURVIVAL OF THE FITTEST".

How come when people act on this they are called barbaric and animalistic- you can't have it both ways.

Does anyone see this? Or am I just being disageeable?

u/d

seattleniceguy

Hey u/d,

Morals and ethics can be explained from an evolutionary standpoint. In a hostile world, species are tremendously advantaged by cooperation. In order for cooperation to work, certain baseline rule of conduct are necessary. Many animals besides humans form groups that resemble tribes (consider wolves, apes, ants, etc), and they protect and cooperate with members of their tribe, while warring with others. Primates often show conspicuously human traits such as compassion for their fellows.

As humans, we are able to analyze our own behavior and label it "animalistic" or "humanistic," but those descriptions don't really bear on whether the behevaior was supplied through evolutionary or creationist means. So it is not really "trying to have it both ways" to accept evolution but still use the adjectives "animalistic" (resembling behavior in animals) or "humanistic" (resembling behavior considered unique to humans).

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Also, I just wanted to respond to the original post in which the poster wrote that the authors of the software program had gleefully pronounced it "incontrovertible evidence" of evolution. I don't think any scientist would say such a thing. A computer simulation cannot become any kind of evidence, let alone incontrovertible evidence, for something that occurs in the natural world, because does not represent observations of the natural world. (Okay, okay, maybe a computer program could provide evidence that computers work in a certain way.)

The really powerful aspect of computer simulations is that they help researchers determine more effectively where to look and what to focus on, or as training/illustration tools. I'm sure it's one of the latter purposes that this software serves.

SNG

funkyderek

upside/down:

If true blind "evolution" is in fact reality (which I have doubts), than the only law is "SURVIVAL OF THE FITTEST".
How come when people act on this they are called barbaric and animalistic- you can't have it both ways.

I don't see the contradiction. It's no different from those who believe in nuclear physics, but would never drop an atomic bomb on someone. Acknowledging the reality of evolution does not mean we have no choice as to how we behave.

New Software Program Purports to Prove Evolution

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