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Valis

LT...I think this one is just BSing...how any young person could believe the things this one is posting is beyond comprehension. You also notice the repetitve nature of this user's posts...same thing over and over again.

LittleToe

My troll-o-meter has been flipping out here for days, too, but I guess you've gotta give it a shot in case he truly is genuine. I'd hate to see another life wrecked, for the sake of a couple of posts...
...the rashness of youth.

hemp lover

I thought I was the only one who didn't believe this guy was for real. Not too many newbies would volunteer this without being accused first: "I'm not an undercover JW." Nor would they mention ad hominem attacks.

Delta20

Hmm, I wonder whether I should take that BS stuff as a compliment or not...

But err, yeah, Im actually 19 years old, and Im studying Philosophy at the moment, and I just completed my class Argumentation and we learned about Ad Hominems and other stuff there so I thought it would be fun to put it to practise. My website is www.sofdnl.com and theres pictures on their from me as well. (Its my Guild page, Just cant remember if the pics were public or for everyone, I didnt create that part myself).

BTW, If you think what we are discussing is BS then I wonder if thats something you should actually post on a thread. If you want me to stop posting thats fine with me, because maybe it confuses you. If you are really serious about it then let an admin PM me and i'll be sure to live by it. I just thought that this was a forum where we could talk about JW's, but I guess the JW's arent the only ones where "questions and doubts" might get you DMed.......

LT:

Ive been educated in the old testament by my jewish teachers since I was 9. Since my 14th/15th Ive been looking for the truth. So about 4/5 years now. Maybe thats too early to form a conclusion, but I can have my opinions can I ;)

Edit:

I saw someone else being accused of that, so I thought I'd mention I wasn't one of those BEFORE I would get accused of that. Besides, wouldnt real JW's not be allowed to talk to you guys anyway? ;)

LittleToe

Jaron:
Keep going. Everywhere you see a "?", in my last half-dozen posts, I had a question

Valis

delta, quite a few of the things you keep repeating don't sound like a student of philosophy. They sound like someone who would swallow every piece of drivel the Witnesses have ever written or believe. I mean really, do you have serious questions to answer or are you here to suggest people go to the Kingdom hall for answers?

See that?

The Witnesses are proud they allow children to die for their belief. Think about it reall hard and you will find that the JW stance on blood is no better than the lunatic that straps dynamite to themselves or a family member and blows themself up in the name of religion. What would you say if your mom diecided to start believing something and it came to affect whether or not you could live or die. Is it her's to decide? Not IMO.

You would do well for yourself to leave the praise of the Witnesses out of your arguments. They make you look rather foolish as the British Philosopher Bertrand Russell once said, "We cannot speak of that of which we do not know".

Sincerely,

District Overbeer

LittleToe

Valis:
That's a really impresive red X.

I think you meant to direct him to:
http://www.ajwrb.org/smkids.gif

On a more general note, that whole site is worth visiting:
http://www.ajwrb.org/

Edited to add:
The site may be down at the moment

stevenyc

LittleToe

you wouldn't be anywhere near Laphroaig land would you?

Steve.

LittleToe

Steve:Nearer Glenmorangie-land

Delta20

Valis,

Well, Russell was wrong, I can most certainly speak of things that I dont know, at least in the perspective that you are using it. And if you want me to leave out the praise for the JW then you must edit the board rules and include "No praising the JW because we don't like em". As I said before, this starts to look like taking away my rights to ask questions or to express my doubts, the same thing you accuse the JW off! I am here for serious questions, and I'm seriously reading your replies and answer them as honestly as I can.

As you have noticed I keep repeating some things, that is because you keep repeating the same questions towards me and don't really listen to my answers, and if you do you do not reply correctly to them (might want to read some of TD's replies, ive learned a lot from him and at least he and LT are nice enough to continue without starting about BS). I already said how I feel about bloodtransfusions and about giving your life for God. If you don't believe that then just say so, but then I also take that you don't believe in the bible, where a man would have sacrificed his son to God, his own son! All JW's do are follow that example. If you think you know the truth and that you know for 100% sure that this is wrong then please explain to me why God asked that of Abraham without turning to the "its just a story" argument). By the way, if you think that suicide bombing is the same as the bloodtransfusion stand of the JW then I have the feeling that something is seriously wrong with you.

LT,

I think above also answered your question: "Is it God's will that the child die? Is it truly? Is that what the blood prohibition was REALLY about?". No its not God's will that the child dies, just as it wasnt Gods will that 50 million people died in WWII, and so on.

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