9/11 Conspiracy?

mkr32208

I don't usually go in for conspiracy stuff in fact I'm usually something of a cynic! However this has me interested! Have any of you seen the documentary "9/11 conspiracy, In plane sight?" Most of it can be argued with like the flashes just before the planes hit the buildings but there are two big things that I can't get!

One the first footage released of the damage to the pentagon shows a hole about 14'X16' there is no crater, there is no aircraft debris, and there is no damage to the wall around the hole... if a plane 165' wide with a 44' high tail hits a building how does it make a hole so small and leave no debris? They claim that the fire burned at over 3000 degrees in all three fires (wtc 1 wtc 2 and pentagon) yet if you look at the pictures of the pentagon after the roof caves in there is very very little smoke and fire damage... even to unburned desk computers and open books and papers...

Two right before the first tower falls there is a MASSIVE explosion from THE GROUND that is almost 50 stories high! The explosion is to the NORTH of the tower (the wind was blowing the smoke south so that can't be it) and the tower had not fallen so there was nothing on fire or exploding below the point of impact and yet SOMETHING on the ground exploded with so much force that the dust and debris went higher than all the other buildings THEN tower one fell... hmmmm (this is CNN footage not some homemade stuff)

ok this is all from www.thepowerhour.com

here are some pics! Now maybe this guys just a whack jobber but I'd welcome some opinions!

Leolaia

My goodness, what real tinfoil stuff!

It's not true that there was "no damage" around the "small hole" visible in your photo of the Pentagon. That "small hole" on the second floor roughly corresponds to the fuselage of the 757 (which incidentally measures only 12 feet in width -- check Boeing specs). What the photo fails to show is the much larger hole on the first floor with damage extending even further beyond. This damage is not visible in the picture because it is conveniently blocked by the stream of white foam that the firefighters were using to put the fire out. Check out other photos on the web which give a better view.

if a plane 165' wide with a 44' high tail hits a building how does it make a hole so small and leave no debris?

I've seen pictures of debris on the web -- just mostly small pieces from what I saw. There probably wasn't much debris considering the airplane's momentum, which would've brought most of the mass of the plane inside the building.

They claim that the fire burned at over 3000 degrees in all three fires (wtc 1 wtc 2 and pentagon) yet if you look at the pictures of the pentagon after the roof caves in there is very very little smoke and fire damage... even to unburned desk computers and open books and papers...

I've seen pics of that upper story office with a computer and books visible. But that upper-floor office was not involved in any fire. It was only exposed when the floors next to the office collapsed.

Two right before the first tower falls there is a MASSIVE explosion from THE GROUND that is almost 50 stories high! The explosion is to the NORTH of the tower (the wind was blowing the smoke south so that can't be it) and the tower had not fallen so there was nothing on fire or exploding below the point of impact and yet SOMETHING on the ground exploded with so much force that the dust and debris went higher than all the other buildings THEN tower one fell... hmmmm (this is CNN footage not some homemade stuff)

I've seen the South Tower collapse footage a zillion times. This plume is obviously from the South Tower collapse. Check out most videos of this collapse -- you can see this plume rising upward after the building fell. Whoever said this was "right before the first tower falls" is inadvertently mistaken. Because of the angle, there is an illusion that the South Tower is still standing but it is not. I just did a quick Google search and found a picture from a different angle of the same rising plume:

dh

it's all a conspiricy

Leolaia

Hmmmm, could that be Pastor Russell? The face looks a little familiar....

Pleasuredome

leo,

i think it might be one of the 7 of the 19 hijackers that are still alive and well.

rebel8

I saw that clip, too. Then I Googled the subject and saw an article debunking the entire thing.

mkr32208

See thats why I like it here! You guys are so smart! Thanks for your time I KNEW something was fishy about this! All his other stuff seemed like the fevered wet dream of a tinhat wearing unibomber but these two I couldn't find any pics or debunking stuff...

In my defense I will say it WAS 3 am and I HAD been soothing a head cold with my good friend tequila!

Brummie

Ya have to remember that the plane didnt go the full width through the walls, the wings would have folded right back on impact or simply broke off. The conspiracy theories are just as dumb as those who thought they were gonna go be with 72 virgins

Mulan

I saw that clip, too. Then I Googled the subject and saw an article debunking the entire thing.

Me too. I saw another documentary a few months ago, that showed part of the fusilage and the landing gear near the Pentagon. There will always be conspiracy theories, I'm afraid.

franklin J

...I lost 4 friends in this trajedy....I was working on a project in each tower and my clients ran for their lives and are lucky to be able to tell the tale ( working on the 60th floor of tower 1)

I still keep the drawings rolled up on my board so I do not have to accept that this really happened in my own backyard....some mental misperception that as long as I keep these drawings active on my board---all those shocking images of runaway speeding airliners striking the towers is just some bad B rate TV movie....

...I have not been back to ground 0 yet; and at this time, do not want to see it. This issue is something I have not come to grips with yet...New York City still operates at an "elevated" alert level. I am careful about WHERE and WHEN I take my children in New York

...the subject is still raw for New Yorkers....

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