Hey, Tina-Girl... peace to you, dear one.
Look, you know I love Farkel as much as you... and HE knows it, too... but D. is back-peddlin' here... and he knows it. You know that if he were in the right, I would be with you in supporting his position. And you know it, too, right, Farkel-y?
But D. is tried to play two-ends against the middle here... and he lost. He IS mad at God, and not simply at the JW version of God... and one day he will admit that... to himself. When he does, he will begin to 'heal', because in order to admit he is mad at God, he has to first acknowledge that there IS a God... which he's already done that... many times... and then put FAITH in that God... so that he can 'approach' Him and DEAL with the issues. (Psalm 4:4)
My concern, however, is that if he does NOT deal with his anger he is going to sin with his mouth. And he doesn't want that, Tina. I know he doesn't. Not in the sense that, "Ooh, he don't wanna go there..." but in the sense that he truly, in his heart, doesn't want to. He just doesn't know how to deal with his anger, is all, and sometimes our anger TAKES us places we had no intention of going. I don't know him ALL that well, but I know him well enough know that. Thus, I am asking with all my heart that he receives the 'help' he is asking for... that my Lord reveal himself to him... because I TRULY have 'brotherly affection' for Farkel. And he knows that, too. But his anger... and by default then, his FLESH... is standing in the way.
D., dear one, you said:
AGuest stated that Jehovah already knew, so by her own reasoning Jehovah was being deceptive to Abraham, and Jehovah said he hates that sort of thing.
He wasn't being deceptive, D. All Abraham had to do was listen. But Abraham though he knew better, and so my Father let HIS truth be PROVEN to Abraham. Rather than just say, "Look, Abe, I am God and I KNOW what's going on better'n you so get outta my way"... He condescended to LET Abraham see for himself. The same as you would do for one of YOUR grown children: you can only warn them; but you've got to let THEM make the choice and find out for themselves.
Put another way, he hold humans up to a higher standard than he holds himself.
No, dear one. In THIS case, He actually condescended... and raised a human higher than Himself. He allowed His hand to be 'checked', even though He knew the human was in error. And He didn't later come back and say, "See, punk? I TOLD you there was no righteous people. YOU... should'a listened to ME! And now, I'm gonna wipe YOU out for talking back..." or something to that effect, which is what a lot of US do when we're right and our children/spouse or other [loved] one gave us a load of grief thinking THEY were.
You also said, dear one:
BTW, Aguest: I'm not the least bit intimidated by your version of God.
It is not my 'version', D. and you know it. And yes, you are intimidated by both my Father and my Lord. Don't forget, you can hide the truth that's in your heart from ME... and others here... but you can't hide it from them. I'm sorry, dear one, but I have tried to tell you that. That is how I know that it is anger that is standing in your way. That, too, is what is in your heart, and by the spirit of my Father, it has been made known to me. Sorry.
And...
With regards to your silly statement that I'm still "stuck" in WT thinking, may I remind you that I don't believe that shit, either.[/QUOTE}May I remind YOU that it was YOU who said:
“But of course, God is going to resurrect them, not resurrect them, resurrect them, not resurrect them, resurrect them, not resurrect them....er, check your latest Watchtower for the newest light on who's gonna be resurrected and who isn't. It's sure to give you the truth on the matter
You weren’t being sarcastic purely against the WT, Daddy-O. Because YOU know I don’t believe their false teachings and flashing ‘light’ either. Considering how we BOTH supposedly feel about what they teach, this was actually a moot statement; however, it is your INTENT for including it that prompted my reply. THEY taught you that falsehood, not my Lord and certainly not my Father; yet it is HE that you blame.
I use JW beliefs to show how ridiculous they are.
My position is stated above.
[QUOTE] I cannot believe you haven't figured that out about me yet.
I can’t believe you even refer to them in the manner you did when having an interchange with me. But, indeed, out of the hearts ABUNDANCE… the mouth speaks (or the fingers type, whatever).
D., please... stop this. I KNOW you are angry... and I know some of why. But it is not BENEFICIAL to you. It will not get you what you want. You cannot stand, fist raised, and challenge God to reveal Himself to you. It doesn't work that way. You have to go in the complete OPPOSITE direction, dear one. Are you listening, D.?
But please know, that your heart and actions are only proving just how much you ARE of 'Israel'... for the very name 'Israel' MEANS... 'contender with God'. But that contention... COST Israel its place in the Household. Please here what I am saying to you, D., because you are NOT hearing my Lord... no, that's not true... you ARE hearing... but you are not LISTENING. You are letting yourself be like those who Israel who HARDENED their hearts. Please... stop.
I bid you peace... you know I do... to time indefinite... if you so 'wish' it.
YOUR servant, friend... and a slave of Christ,
SJ
