Amazing... they DFed her because she didn't understand why JWs think Christmas is wrong???
....... they were quick enough to BAPTISE her though!!!!!!!!
by FreedomFrog 45 Replies latest jw friends
Amazing... they DFed her because she didn't understand why JWs think Christmas is wrong???
....... they were quick enough to BAPTISE her though!!!!!!!!
freedomfrog, i'm really sorry for what happens to you and your family... i understand the fact you're so angry, as i am myself reading your posts ;-) !!! this story is just so disgusting!!!
Freedomfrog your post is upsetting and makes me angry given your situation; Jesus associated with far worse people who committed far worse sins than celebrating christmas...such as prostitutes and tax collectors...etc...the WTS conveniently forget this.
With regards to your sister being disfellowshipped on the grounds she has been I find it totally unacceptable that this should go on...another poster has suggested going to the media on this issue and I wholeheartedly agree...even if celebrating christmas was wrong you would have expected some CHRISTIAN compassion from the elders on the judicial committee and their failures in this regard demonstrate a complete lack of moral fibre.
I am sorry for your sisters suffering and yours too by the sounds of things; try and offer your sister some encouragement in that she can rely on her remaining family (you) to help and support her; whilst her husband might not be assertive this would be an ideal time to encourage him to take the lead in rebuilding your sisters self esteem.
I have said it on numerous posts, but the whole principle of shunning is morally irreprehensible and totally unchristian in the majority of instances. Take heed from this experience and really ask yourself whether this was an act of love.
Prayers and thoughts are with you at this time...try to keep positive.
G
FF:
When is this maddness going to stop???
When the last one dies...
It looks like you're engaged in the next battle of your family's war against the borg. It's a shame it came so soon, in that you didn't get a chance to draw breath, however it may be the Elders are on a witchhunt.
I like Brenda's adaptation of the serenity prayer
FF
Sorry to hear of your and your sis's situation. My thoughts are with you thru all this.
Just remember whom you are dealing with here. These elders [like most elders] are brain inactivated, emotionally anethesized, insolar in knowledge, followers of men. Mostly they are overcome with the idea that they are part of the 'one true faith' commissioned by Christ in 1919.
In short they are brainwashed members of a cult-like religion. They will always act like it. It will always cause others pain. And it will always dishonor the very God they claim they worship.
I know the anger - I have been there. I try to substitute pity for them, and concentate on those I can help out of this mind-captivity.
Good Luck to you -
Jeff
(((FF)))
I'm so sorry to hear this. Their behavior is absolutely ridiculous and about as UNChristian as you can get.
Dawn,
Here is a little tid-bit also for you to consider. The day I was DF'd I just knew it was the worst thing that could EVER happen to me - loosing everything and everyone I loved and knew in one short announcement. It was the worst day of my life.
That was many years ago - but I now look back and realize that had it not been for the DF'ing I probably would never have started researching more, learning the history of the JW religion, reading my bible, and eventually finding freedom. Sometimes things happen to us for a reason - while at the moment it may seem as though it's sensless and terrible, later on it is revealed to have been a positive change. I know now that my DF'ing was one of the best things that ever happened to me. I was not strong enough to leave - my DF'ing gave me the push I needed. It may well be the same thing with your sister and her husband - they may have never left with all your efforts to open their eyes, and perhaps this is a push outside the gates of the prison, and a chance to breath in some new and fresh air.
I realize this might not feel like this now...but I wholeheartedly agree with you. Your situations mirrors mine exactly. My DFing has been the biggest blessing I've ever experienced by far! But at that time it sure didn't feel like it.
Andi
I just said a prayer for you and your sister, I hope it helps. Also for her husband to realize that he's in a cult. It is heartwrenching to think that those modern day pharisees could do that to a disabled person and be so cruel to say that she's now free to do all the bad things she wants. Hmm, do you think Jesus would have treated them this way? HELL NO! It is the most unchristlike religion, er, cult out there. I only hope those pricks get theirs. Your sister is really going to need your help and support now. My thoughts and prayers are with you and I hope the future brings better things.mama
Hey freedom frog
so very sorry to hear about your family situation - sounds awful and i hope it gets sorted out. i will say a prayer for you.
holly
Thanks Holly you're too sweet...
Update.
I drove to my sisters last night and told her she CAN appeal if she wants. It's about 2 hours for me...and only 20 mins for my parents. They (elders) had told her about the appeal, but because of her limited mental ability she wasn't sure how to get one written. They told her that she had to SEND it to ONE elder.
I'm calling her today to help her write the appeal letter and then I'm going to suggest her to take it to each of the elders and HAND it to them. She kept saying that they said to send it to this one elder. I just know that if she does it that way, it will "accidentally (on purpose)" get lost or not there in time. I also told her that we will rehearse before she goes to the appeal committee. She told me that they told her NOT to rehearse. I reminded her, though, "what do you think THEY do? They don't just walk in all together not knowing what each other is going to talk about. They talk to each other BEFORE the meeting...so why can't you?" I warned her not to tell them that she rehearsed.
I don't think the appeal will work because she will be up against the CO and 3 more elders. They will pull out big words for her.
On one hand I want the appeal to work because she is dependent on my parents. But then again, I hope it doesn't because I want her out for good. It will be so hard for me to help her since I live so far away. I can help by phone, but to just get up and drive there all the time with having a baby and home schooling my kid...that's a lot of responsibility on me.
She asked me if *I* was going to shun her and I told her I would never do that. It's not a loving thing to do. As she was crying she said "you know, even after I "told" on you, you are the only one that has been trying to help me. You are the only one that has been showing true love".
Oh...and BTW when I started this post I was told that she WAS DF'd. But that was because mom told her that she was. Come to find out, it hadn't been announced yet. So I told her that she is not to be shunned yet. Not until they actually announce it.
My parents gets so many things so confused even for a JW. I've been able to prove on many occasions that what I have said proves to be true. You would think they'd see that I wasn't just talking out my butt.
For example. They were arguing with me one day that Jer. 10:1-5 referred to the Christmas tree. I had to pull out the WT and find that article where even the society doesn't believe that. FINALLY I was able to make them see. Now it's "Yeah, but the very first thing that it says is to not follow after the customs". We just go round and round because JW's have many customs...such as ushers and bridesmaids (which have origins of evil spirits).
The other thing I proved I wasn't just making things up was that the WTBTS did indeed have a "membership" with the United Nations. But that was after I called the Branch with mom there and they did confirm it. They were all squirmy with it and beating around the bush saying things like "well, it wasn't exactly a membership. I pinned them down and asked was anything "signed". They did admit to it (because they had to). So my point to my parents was if THEY can sign ANYTHING that was related to the UN, then why can't we sign in at the YMCA to just use their pool. I'm accused of twisting things around to my benefit.