God is insane

by onacruse 27 Replies latest jw friends

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  czarofmischief

  I'm sorry for your pain. Explanations or attempts at reasons for such events rarely make it any easier to endure.

  CZAR
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  LittleToe

  He said "I made you Lord of your own planet, what are you berating my [incorporeal] ass for?"
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  Taylor S.

  it took a decade after leaving the dubs at 19 to stop looking over my shoulder ...because i still believed there was a fiery mallet with my name on it. once i'd decided that life-long belief was a little idiotic, i adopted the Agnostic stance on the matter.

  I don't know. And you don't either.

  it felt safe, like hedging my bets. i guessed that if i ever did have to account for my life, any deity with half a brain would understand when i said i just didn't want to back the wrong horse, so to speak.

  but when i joined this group and saw AlmostAtheist's screename, i realized that i'd been drifting in that direction for quite some time myself.

  the truth is ... no god of love would allow such atrocites. SLAVERY (all because someone molested Noah's old a$$!)... that's always been a burr in my boxers, and at the hands of Christians to boot, followers of the big JC. and the JW stance on all this is he's proving a point? Okay ... we get it ... we got it a LOOOOOOOOOONG time ago. I think that paradise is wee bit overdue.

  yeah ... i get pissed too.

  got pissed the other day watchin the news and somebody's three year old fell from a tenth story window. then you see the distaught crowd and the news cameras and the inevitable weak comment, "He's with god." yeah, well, if god wanted him ... couldn't he come up with a better form of acquisition than plunging a toddler to his death?

  from my front row seat on 9/11 ... watching people fall ... yeah, that was the birth of my atheism. i've come to believe that RELIGION itself IS THE DEVIL.

  unless your heavily medicated, you can't help but to get pissed at stuff. but what i try to do is extract as much joy out of each day as possible. focus on the beauty of life and not the ugly.

  i know, it sounds almost like a platitude ... and i guess it is.

  but it works ... and it keeps me sane.

  it's a beautiful sunny day in Jersey City. i'm gonna have coffee and take my three dogs to the park.

  taylorS
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  cindykp

  Taylor,

  As you know, probably every one here knows, I am bitter. But Im not bitter with god. And I do still believe in Jehovah. Just not the way Im expected to by the jw's. Im bitter about how they want us to believe that df is a form of encouragement! Yeah right! Thats exactly what they said to me in the comittee meeting. Announcing my name on the platform, humiliating me in front of everyone after 15 years. Thats encouraging. But Is it gods fault, or is it the fact that we are all imperfect. I really dont know. You could look at it either way. If he truely is "directing" the watch, then...............................
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  JAVA

  I'm not sure how something that doesn't exist can be "insane." I mostly respect the theme Jesus spread as reported in scripture, but do not buy the hocus-pocus about being the "son of God" etc. I consider that "insane."
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  xjw_b12

  Hello Craig. I can relate to what you say. I've posted a couple of similar musings here.

  http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/81189/1323033/post.ashx#1323033

  http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/12/84278/1383872/post.ashx#1383872

  I've always felt that God should be hauled into a court of law and charged with reckless endangerment and neglect of children.
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  Qcmbr

  Gotta defend God here.... This world is clearly not heaven on earth - death may just be the most merciful escape. Son of God did not avoid any of the horrors of this world but went through all (Garden of Gethsemane) Some bad things happen in direct violation of commandments (murder , rape, cancer caused by abusing our bodies with drugs etc..) Bad things happen because we consistently don't learn to love each other - many famines, world illnesses etc.. that could be solved. If we are some sort of eternal being then this time on earth is so short and is the only point in our existence when we can suffer pain, loss etc.. in other words this is our point of comparison for eternity - this may just be the most important thing for us. God doesn't always step in because 1/ we reject Him at every step 2/ We have to learn from our own mistakes 3/ That tragedy is meant to happen - its just time for that peron / group to come home. Maybe we'd be more aware of how much help we got if we could see all the work that goes on in teh background for and on our behalf - I have experiences I just cannot / won't share in this forum but I know that thing shappen on the other side that most of us are blissfully unaware of.
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  AlanF

  Chill, dude! You might as well be pissed that the Tooth Fairy doesn't fix the world.

  Ain't no Tooth Fairy, ain't no Christian God.

  AlanF
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  JamesThomas

  Craig,
  
  I really understand how you feel; as the darkest and most vile of murderous hatred I have ever felt has been directed to a god out there.
  
  None of it makes sense: a world full of suffering; some divine entity who can help but doesn't. It does not compute. Is there any wonder we are frustrated? Perhaps we dwell in discontent simply because we are living -- like a fish out of water -- outside our true nature.
  
  The truth which incorporates a deep sense of inherent peace and wholeness is not found in a "reality" where we are here, and God is there. So why continue the insanity, unless we secretly enjoy the pain and desire to go crazier still.
  
  What is needed is a drastic shift initiated by a radical questioning attitude. Is it true what I have for so long believe about myself as a tiny individual entity and it's relationship to a separate and dangerous universe?
  
  We have already learned that if we look outwards into the world our broken identity and story will be confirmed. What if we focus our investigation and questions within? What if we go deeper within our own sense of being? What if we question everything and go to the root? Who/what, am I, really?
  
  If we are unquestionably living an identity which is a lie, it likely all which is viewed through those eyes will be interpreted wrongly also. So, it makes sense that if we are to know the reality of what the universe presents, about "God", or whatever, we must know the truth about ourselves first.
  
  
  j
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  bebu

  I think we can easily go crazy because the world's circumstances certainly emphasize our own utter powerless. ... And powerlessness makes us angry.

  As for how I handle this chasm of imcomprehension, I simply reflect on what I DO know: I know I have a very corrupted/corruptable heart, and am unable to do anything to permanently change its core on my own. I also know I have been unable to free myself from the selfishness that plagues me.

  What I have needed most in life--reconciliation--I have, because of Christ. (And there are millions/billions of individuals who grasp this reconciliation as well.) An internal rudder has shifted because of grace, and now I can see hope where before there appeared to be none.

  bebu