Hello JW Ben
are you a scholar? can you read Hebrew or Greek ?
The Trinity!
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JosephMalik
Tyre,
God also called or referred to as the Spirit of Him in some texts raised the Word from the dead to the Glory this Word had before the world of mankind was created in answer and fulfillment to our Lord's prayer in the garden.
The Word also called Jesus then raised his own body as he prophesied. Thus a dual or hypostasis nature, both valid domains of this Messiah came into existence consisting of the Word and the human Jesus at the time of this resurrection. Both natures were then demonstrated to us in subsequent texts and the human nature of this Jesus is the one that is scheduled to rule here on earth in the promised Kingdom (Acts 1:11) .
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Deputy Dog
Thanks Tyre
Ben
Who raised Jesus from the dead? I'm waiting.
Some debate???...
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stillajwexelder
I see this shitty Trinity thread is still going - Hear o Israel the Lord our God is Three in One Gods -One is called Jesus (Yeheshua ben Joseph) the other is Called Jehovah (Yahweh, Lord etc) the other is called Holy Spirit .and Jesus prayed to one bit called Jehovah and before that Holy Spirit (apparently a person) had sex with Mary and produced Jesus who was not really Jesus but Jehovah because they are all part of a Trinity - then Jesus died but Jehovah resurrected him - sorry it was Jesus who resurrected Jesus - anyway I am confused - and Jesus sacrificed himself -or was sacrificed to himself but while he was dead he was not really dead becaus ehe was part of a trinity so the other bit was still alive
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stillajwexelder
17 And as he was going out on his way, a certain man ran up and fell upon his knees before him and put the question to him: "Good Teacher, what must I do to inherit everlasting life?" 18 Jesus said to him: "Why do you call me good? Nobody is good, except one, God.
Mark 10 vs 17 and 18 So that would be Jesus?
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Kenneson
Still,
I think you hit it on the head. That's why Jesus is called the Good Shepherd (John 10:11, 14) because he is good. Since he is said to be sinless (Heb. 4:15), that would indeed make him good. The question to the young man is why do you call me good, if you don't believe I am God?
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stillajwexelder
we spin and spin and spin - the good spin about the land -
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Tyre
*** Worldwide Security Under the "Prince of Peace" (1986) p.169 ch.20 A Happy Human Family Under a New Fatherhood ***
18 The first Adam bequeathed a condemnation to death to all his offspring. Did Adam become the forefather of the man Jesus Christ? No, Jesus did not have a human father but was born from a virgin made pregnant with his life-force that God transferred from the spirit realm. So the sinner Adam did not become a forefather of that earthly Son of God. The second Adam, however, has become a life-giving spirit. In this capacity he can fulfill Isaiah's prophecy and become the "Eternal Father" to the first Adam's offspring, whom he repurchases and adopts for the purpose of bestowing perfect human life on a paradise earth.
19 In such a way the heavenly Father of Jesus Christ will become the heavenly Grandfather of the restored human family. For this reason the human family will enter into a new relationship with the Creator of heaven and earth. Never was there the least possibility that Jehovah would fail in his original purpose. Thus Jehovah will have foiled the vicious, ungodly scheme of Satan the Devil. All the repurchased human family will be brought to the knowledge of this fact. What a wonderful day it will be when Jesus Christ takes over the fatherhood of the human family in order to rear mankind in Paradise restored to earth!
[Emphasis Added]
Heavenly Father soon will become Heavenly Grandfather and Jesus will soon become a Heavenly Father. Funny, isn't it?
JEHOVAH's WITNESS IS BINITY.
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JW Ben
No I am not a scholar. I cannot read hebrew but can read some Greek. I use variuse Greek and Hebrew text books to see what scholars do say about grammar and the meaning of words used. I also use about 30 different Bibles to compare how they treat words in different passages.
To the person that said ....this is some debate...
This is not suposed to be a debate. I want someone game enough to take me on so that I can demonstarte the correctness of the NWT and that the Trinity doctrine is not found in the Bible.
Also tho the person that asked about who raied Jesus (the same person that said this is some debate...) God raised Jesus. It is a dangerous line to yake when one text is taken out on its own to try to prove a point. The context of the Bible will show that Jesus could rightly say "I will raise myself" and be refering to his father.