Analyze this: The newly revised questions for baptism

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  • ezekiel3
    ezekiel3
    Elsewhere asks: Have they changed their stance on suicide? Last I heard a person was viewed as having a mental disorder and therefore not condemned. Are they now condemning people who commit suicide?


    *** w02 6/15 p. 30 Questions From Readers ***

    If

    someone commits suicide, would it be advisable for a Christian minister to give the funeral talk?

    Each Christian minister would have to decide for himself whether he in good conscience could conduct a funeral for someone who seems to have committed suicide. When making the decision, he should consider the following questions: How does Jehovah view suicide? Was the death really a self-inflicted murder? Did a mental or emotional disorder trigger the suicide? How is suicide viewed in the locality?

    As Christians, we are interested in how Jehovah views suicide. To Jehovah human life is precious and sacred. (Genesis 9:5; Psalm 36:9) The intentional killing of oneself is self-murder, and it is therefore displeasing in God?s eyes. (Exodus 20:13; 1 John 3:15) Does that fact preclude the giving of a funeral talk for a suicide victim?

    ...

    There is one more aspect to consider: How do people in the community view suicide and the death of the person? This is especially of concern to the elders, who are interested in the reputation of the local congregation of Jehovah?s Witnesses. Depending on the general attitude toward suicide in the locality, and particularly toward the case involved, the elders may prefer not to sponsor such a funeral publicly or to have it in the Kingdom Hall.

    Still, if a Christian minister is asked to preside at the funeral, he may feel that on a private basis, he can do so. If he decides to do so, he should be discreet in not making any firm statements about whether a resurrection might be possible. Any future prospect for the dead is in the hands of Jehovah, and no one is in a position to say whether the deceased will be resurrected or not. The minister can concentrate on the Bible truths about death and offer comfort for the bereaved.

  • purplesofa
    purplesofa
    he should be discreet in not making any firm statements about whether a resurrection might be possible. Any future prospect for the dead is in the hands of Jehovah, and no one is in a position to say whether the deceased will be resurrected or not.

    woah.........shouldn't this be true for the death of anyone?

  • SixofNine
    SixofNine
    9. To avoid transmitting an infectious or a potentially fatal disease to others, why should an infected person (a) not initiate public displays of affection, such as hugging and kissing? (b) attend the Congregation Book Study at the Kingdom Hall if at all possible? (c) not react negatively when some choose not to invite him into their homes? (d) Why should a person who may have been exposed to an infectious disease voluntarily choose to have a blood test before beginning a courtship? (e) Why should one having a communicable disease inform the presiding overseer before getting baptized?

    And I thought they couldn't shock me anymore.

  • Dragonlady76
    Dragonlady76

    ROFLMFAO @ Sparkplug!

    These questions scream cult! How can people not see this?

    Dragonlady76

  • Dustin
    Dustin

    I love answering loaded questions!

  • iiz2cool
    iiz2cool
    9. To avoid transmitting an infectious or a potentially fatal disease to others, why should an infected person (a) not initiate public displays of affection, such as hugging and kissing? (b) attend the Congregation Book Study at the Kingdom Hall if at all possible? (c) not react negatively when some choose not to invite him into their homes? (d) Why should a person who may have been exposed to an infectious disease voluntarily choose to have a blood test before beginning a courtship? (e) Why should one having a communicable disease inform the presiding overseer before getting baptized?

    So, a person should reveal confidential, personal, medical information to the PO as though it's his business? Obviously they have no intention of keeping the matter confidential, or there would be no need for the (c) portion of the question - "(c) not react negatively when some choose not to invite him into their homes?"

    They're showing how truly ignorant they are.

    I notice that they left out another important question - Why should a JW with a communicable disease avoid putting their disease carrying money in the contribution box?

    Bastards!

    Walter

  • Sparkplug
    Sparkplug

    Dragonlady76- Yeah, I am still laughing to.

    Had to get past my extreme change in temperment there....

  • No Apologies
    No Apologies
    (e) Why should one having a communicable disease inform the presiding overseer before getting baptized?

    Since its mentioned in connection with baptism, are they afraid someone who is HIV-positive could infect others using the same pool?

    (not trying to defend them, just trying to figure out where they come up with this stuff)

    No Apologies

  • jimbob
    jimbob
    Too bad the apostles didn't have these detailed instructions.

    Good one, min!

  • Sparkplug
    Sparkplug
    Since its mentioned in connection with baptism, are they afraid someone who is HIV-positive could infect others using the same pool?

    Urban myth... Besides should they not for sanitary's sake, put chemicals in anyway?

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