by slimboyfat 37 Replies latest jw friends
But don't you worry that apostates rely on such images just as Jehovah's Witnesses?
still at it are we? You clearly do not understand about learning from experience. Once again you try and group everyone who is no longer a wtiness together as if we all have the same perceptions or life experiences with the Jehovah's Witnesses. Once again another lame attempt to prove a point that has been refuted several times already. Get stuffed! Sincerely, District Overbeer
Still setting a shining example of tolerance there I see, Valis...
No thoughts on the poem?
Hello slimboyfat,
But don't you worry that apostates rely on such images just as Jehovah's Witnesses?
Some people do. It's a human tendancy, as can be seen by the surge in fundamentalism in general. The myth of absolute certainty is tantalizing. The main difference between JWs and ex-JWs is that ex-JWs (apostates, if you like) have come to believe firmly that one particular set of images are broken. This is not the same as trusting in their own images. Certainly, it is the best if we can apply our critical thinking abilities to all belief systems. Ex-JWs are just more outspoken about the one they have the most experience with. Lack of belief in a given system is not the same as positive belief in another system. I appreciated your straightforwardness on this thread. SNG
Thanks seatleniceguy, and for your message.
sng maybe you see straightforwardness, but I see a continuation of his same ignorant argument started here..
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/87873/1.ashx
One simply has to understand the concept of learning from what one experiences. Say for instance you were handling snakes and one of them bit you, and you became violently ill. Would you deal with the same snake in the same way? Not if you are wise. You might also tell other people what happened to help them deal with the snake if they run into it. Experience with the WTBTS is the same. It hurt a lot of people and people may agree that they are better off not being Witnesses, but it is certainly NOT an indication that we all see or view the Witnesses and their religion in the same way. Exatly what ding dong is trying to do here and what he has been attempting for some time.
Sincerely,
District Overbeer
I am the same one
There is no doubt about that.
But is it a bad thing?
Once again, sbf, you have absolutely nothing specific to say. Prove me wrong:
1) Who are apostates?
common for all apostates are so biased and unsubstantiated?
Pole
1. Apostates are people who believe that Jehovah's Witnesses do not have the truth.
2. See above. Such a single belief may not be so important to be called a "core set of views" were it not for the amount of time and energy apostates expend on such a belief (just as Jehovah's Witnesses do on the converse - that Jehovah's Witnesses do have the truth).
3. See number 1.
Thank you pole.
1. Apostates are people who believe that Jehovah's Witnesses do not have the truth.
That would mean 99% of world population are "apostate". I think you're overusing the term.
2. See above. Such a single belief may not be so important to be called a "core set of views" were it not for the amount of time and energy apostates expend on such a belief (just as Jehovah's Witnesses do on the converse - that Jehovah's Witnesses do have the truth).
You used the term "worldview" on the other thread, so I thought you meant something more encompassing. In fact my view on Jehovah's Witnesses is only a very small part of my worldview now.
But if you mean ex-witnesses who spent years in the religion and oftentimes lost entire families to the phoney doctrines and are now spending their time trying to prevent others from making the same mistake... What's wrong with that? I'd agree there are some who replace one set of doctrines with another set of doctrines, but this doesn't apply to most posters I know (be it only from their posts) here. Besides you shouldn't assume just because you "know" someone from his/her posts here, the person spends their entire life reliving the JW experience.
3. See number 1.
So there is no common set of views other than the view that JWs are wrong? Is that it? Of course they're 90% wrong, like most religious fundamentalists. Can you give me a few examples of their core doctrines which they got right?
Pole
