Did Jesus tell a fib?

by gumby 68 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • Narkissos
    Narkissos

    Evidence that this has been taken literally:

    Long ending of Mark (spurious to Mark yet "canonical" to almost all Christian confessions):

    And these signs will accompany those who believe: by using my name they will cast out demons; they will speak in new tongues; they will pick up snakes in their hands, and if they drink any deadly thing, it will not hurt them; they will lay their hands on the sick, and they will recover."

    The Maltese episod in Acts 28:

    Paul had gathered a bundle of brushwood and was putting it on the fire, when a viper, driven out by the heat, fastened itself on his hand. When the natives saw the creature hanging from his hand, they said to one another, "This man must be a murderer; though he has escaped from the sea, justice has not allowed him to live." He, however, shook off the creature into the fire and suffered no harm. They were expecting him to swell up or drop dead, but after they had waited a long time and saw that nothing unusual had happened to him, they changed their minds and began to say that he was a god.
  • LittleToe
    LittleToe

    Didier:
    Setting aside the potentially spurious verse at the end of Mark, the account in Acts would surely also have "Believers" as "gods", if we are to make a full association?

  • Narkissos
    Narkissos

    Ross,

    From a Maltese standpoint, perhaps.

    (Hoping I'm not offending any Maltese poster.)

  • Deputy Dog
    Deputy Dog

    Gumby

    Luk 10:21

    In that hour Jesus rejoiced in spirit, and said, I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, that thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them unto babes: even so, Father; for so it seemed good in thy sight.

    The problem is, Michelle is a babe and I guess Gumby's not. "and nothing shall by any means, hurt you" Jesus is talking about the soul.

    D Dog
  • myelaine
    myelaine

    JT,

    When people come to my house, I give freely of what I have. They come back of their own accord. If you give good gifts.....

    michelle

  • gumby
    gumby

    Thanks Nark. Funny you don't see pastor's using this scripture in their sermons eh? I wonder why?

    So, tell me LT, If it's demons were talking about here......how is it that demons harm the ungodly, yet do not prevail against christians? Is the demons can't take away their love of christ? If that's true....why did my love for christ vanish and about a few million others? Did the demons prevail over Jesus words......or did I just boo boo so bad the Lord took his protection from me and others and let the demons influence us to become non-believers? Either way you slice it.....Jesus bailed out on what he promised. That doesn't surprise me though.......he said he would "come quickly" 2000 years ago and he never came......he told his followers "they wouldn't taste death"....and they did. I'm thinkin the Kenny Loggins lookin little rascle is a shister myself

    BTW....now I think bout it .....LT kinda looks like Jesus!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You ain't him are ya?

    Gumby

  • myelaine
    myelaine

    D Dog,

    Michelle is a babe

    Thank you...I know.

    michelle (the babelicious one)

  • Narkissos
    Narkissos
    Michelle is a babe and I guess Gumby's not

  • Honesty
    Honesty

    "and nothing shall by any means, hurt you" Jesus is talking about the soul.

    D Dog
    That is exactly the way I have seen this since I became a Christian.

  • LittleToe
    LittleToe

    First off, I wouldn't be dogmatic about much in the way of any interpretation. All I've given is my take on the verse.

    Secondly, I won't have anyone put words in my mouth. I never said that "love" couldn't disappear. Aren't there cases of love growing cold in Revelation? Love is also a two-way street - can you MAKE someone love you, by loving them so much? If this were so then I wouldn't be separated from my wife.

    I've already said what I think it means. I can elaborate on THAT, if you wish?

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