Jesus the son of God

by kingdoman 52 Replies latest watchtower bible

  • myelaine
    myelaine

    Abaddon,

    you said: There is no surer sign of a lunatic or a false prohphet than predicting the end of the world.

    God's prophets are into prediction, man.

    At that time Michael shall stand up, the great prince who stands watch over the sons of your people; and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation, even to that time. And at that time your people shall be delivered, everyone who is found written in the book. Dan.12:1

    I am hoping that this messanger will set things straight for everyone, everyone that will listen that is, but we are a evil and adulterous generation aren't we?.

    michelle

  • Crumpet
    Crumpet
    but we are a evil and adulterous generation aren't we?.

    Speak for yourself love. I for one do not commit adultery nor approve of it and actually I've shed most of evilness with my belief in God. Put them both in the bin where they belong.

  • doogie
    doogie
    God's prophets are into prediction, man

    ...and if you can name one end of the world prediction that has actually come true, i'm sure abaddon would be glad to retract his statement. until then, "lunatic" seems to apply.

  • OldSoul
    OldSoul

    But, doogie!!! By then it will be too late!!! Wake up, doogster! The world is headed for disasters!!!

    Actually, that last bit is an incredibly safe bet. It is as nearly an absolute as anything could be.

  • doogie
    doogie
    But, doogie!!! By then it will be too late!!! Wake up, doogster! The world is headed for disasters!!!

    yeah, that's the clever little bit of it, eh? be just vague enough to never be proven wrong. except, the other side is you'll never be proven right either. unverifiable and unfalsifiable. clever, but i'm not buyin.

  • myelaine
    myelaine

    doogie,

    Also, I set watchmen over you, saying, ' Listen to the sound of the trumpet! ' but they said, ' We will not listen.' Jeremiah 6:17

    michelle

  • doogie
    doogie

    mye:

    lets say that i write a book today. this book will say that the world will end 'soon' in an unspecified fashion. you will know when the end is drawing close because of the pudding. it won't explain what is meant by 'pudding', just that pudding would somehow be involved. my book will also say that many will not believe in the upcoming pudding calamity. these unbelievers will say, "'There has never been a pudding calamity before, there will NEVER be one!'...WOE TO THOSE THAT DO NOT HEED THE PUDDING WARNING!!!" the book will go on will insinuate that those that do not believe in the impending pudding inspired doom are simply blinded by evil forces and need to put more faith in the "Unspecified Controllers of the Pudding."

    you would probably call the book ludicrous and the predictions lunacy. ah, then you have PROVEN that i am a prophet because i said very clearly that some would not believe!

    of course, you can see my dilemma with the bible.

  • Satanus
    Satanus

    kingdoman

    I have made my apologies, and they are well meant.

    Ok.

    My Great Grandfather was the Leader of the Grand Lodge of Natal in South Africa. I acquired from my grandmother records that Name CT Russell as an active member of the York Rite Templar at the time of the founding of the Watchtower. I can not produce these documents as it went to my grans brother who also is a mason on her death (sorry) but can say that I say the member list with my own eyes.

    This would have been interesting if you could have provided proof. Also, proof that he was rosicrucian. Rosicrucian is now related to reemason. They are based in the same buildings. But since you cannot provide the proof, it's just your word, and we have no idea who you are. You can understand that, i'm sure.

    S

  • AshtonCA
    AshtonCA
    As to this being a site for recovering JW's. I am sot sure what you mean by that. The site appears to be very JW to me.

    Okay, I haven't read through all of your posts yet to see if you understand what this board is all about, but just in case you haven't gotten it yet, here we go.

    This board is not a JW board. It is a board of EX JW's who have been hurt by the JW organization in one way or another. Most of the posters here are former JW who pretty much have a sour taste in our mouths for the WTS org. We do NOT defend them and some of us even work really hard to try to get as many out of the org as we can.

    Hope this helped a bit to clear up why your posts were received the way they were by so many here. Now, you can stop trying to preach to the choir on the subject of how bad the JW religion is. WE KNOW, that's why we left! ;)

    Ash

  • hmike
    hmike

    Hi Mark (Kingdoman)--if you're still checking in,

    As others have said, most people here are ex-JWs who left the organization for various reasons. Many are still bitter and angry with the way they were treated by the organization or people in the local KH. There's no mistake that JW is a cult, which tries to control its members in order to perpetuate itself, and not for the members' benefit, or even for the God they claim to serve.

    Because of the way the WTS mistreated them, and the way the organization mishandled the Bible, many people who left JW have also abandoned God and the Bible (at least insofar as it came from God in any sense, but rather feel that it is entirely of human origin)--they consider it all part of the same package. So here you will find a lot of atheism, agnosticism, New Age, etc. That is why you received such a cool reaction when you busted in the door like Eliot Ness at a brewery.

    If you feel it is your calling to approach people in cults in the manner you did, who am I to argue? But, frankly, it comes off like there is no genuine concern for those you address--you're just doing your duty, or collecting jewels for your crown, which is how the cults come off.

    Most people who come here to "save the world" post once and disappear. If you stick around, you may learn about real people.

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