Working on a Logical Problem

by dunsscot 62 Replies latest jw friends

  • dunsscot
    dunsscot

    larc: Hello brother Farkel,
    While Duns is trying to understand the nature of water, others are trying to figure out the nature of child abuse, spousal abuse, mental illness, failed prophecy, educational restrictions, military draft issues, blood issues, and a generally fucked up system. Once Duns understands the nature of water, he might move on to these other distasteful subjects.:

    Are you telling me that you cannot try to understand more than one res at a time, brother larc? For the record, I am not that concerned with the nature of water. My interest actually lies in the descriptive adequacy and precision of the proposition, "Water is H20."

    But I am also interested in the quiddity of race as well as the whatness of intelligence as it pertains to minorities. These issues have a broad impact on young people undergoing social justice in modern society, as brother Firpo Carr well knows. I am also quite interested in assisting those who suffer various forms of mental illness. Yes, Duns is not monomaniacal.

    Duns the Scot

  • riz
    riz

    Country Joe,

    Once again, I love your posts! And the way you incorporate personal anecdotes to prove points, I can say that I look forward to your input, and I even read your replies word for word.

    Keep 'em coming.

    riz

  • larc
    larc

    Hello Duns,

    I will take your obscure sentence and translate it. You are interested in the real nature of race and the question of intelligence as it applies to minorities. Since you are interested in this subject, why don't you tell us your conclusions?

    You also state that you want to help the mentaly ill. What have you done in this regard? Since you missdiagnosed yourself with a diagnostic category that does not exist, I think you have some homework to do. By the way, what role do the demons play in the world of mental illness?

    Duns, I am starting to loose respect for your intellectual integrity.

  • ladonna
    ladonna

    Larc,

    You are right on your mettle..heheheheh
    What a loaded post if ever I saw one..

    But I will let Duns reply.

    Ana

    "Good music is very close to primitive language."

  • dunsscot
    dunsscot

    Greetings larc,

    :Hello Duns,
    I will take your obscure sentence and translate it. You are interested in the real nature of race and the question of intelligence as it applies to minorities. Since you are interested in this subject, why don't you tell us your conclusions?:

    I have not arrived at any definite conclusions, yet. I am still reading a number of African-American thinkers, who share disparate perspectives on this issue. Certain thinkers, such as Kwame Appiah, think that we should do away with the category of race altogether. He even appeals to science to support his ideas. His approach has been called neopositivistic. But Lewis R. Gordon and Lucius T. Outlaw both think that we should retain the category of race. Outlaw suggests that race, however, encompasses biological, social and cultural factors. Naomi Zack has also done some excellent research on so-called mixed races. Gordon discusses Zack's theory in his _Africana Existentia_.

    At any rate, I am still forming my own ideas on the subject. I right now think that "race" could be a social construct (i.e., it is not an essential or substantial category). Nevertheless, there might be good reasons for maintaining the classification "race" for now. Preserving the category does not mean that one supports racist ideologies, however.

    :You also state that you want to help the mentaly ill. What have you done in this regard?:

    I have endeavored to stress proper respect and concern for the mentally ill in my very congregation. I've also taken active steps to encourage others to take advantage of depression screening day in our area. Furthermore, I have encouraged certain brothers and sisters to take advantage of professional counselors, if they feel the need. I also think Paul's counsel in 1 Thess 5:14 is quite apropos when one is dealing with depressed souls. Duns would like to see certain congregational policies change vis-à-vis mentally ill persons as well.

    :Since you missdiagnosed yourself with a diagnostic category that does not exist, I think you have some homework to do. By the way, what role do the demons play in the world of mental illness?:

    First, in case you haven't figured it out yet, Duns was joking about associative personality disorder. Secondly, Duns did not say that he diagnosed himself. He said that someone else did. But this comment was made in jest. Do I have to smatter my submissions with emoticons so that you guys know Duns is joking? Besides, I am not a psychologist nor do I want to be. I am a philosopher, pure and simple, who is interested in psychological issues. I study psychology from that angle.

    As far as the demons go, I really cannot say what part they play in mental illness. While I do not believe that loyal Christians can be demon-possessed, for example, I think that the demons can exacerbate certain conditions. But demon activity is not in the purview of science, is it?

    :Duns, I am starting to loose respect for your intellectual integrity.:

    Did you have any respect for my intellectual integrity in the first place?

    Dan

    Duns the Scot

  • Tina
    Tina

    Hi Ana

    'associative personality disorder' LOLOLOLO. I was rollin on the floor when I read that. Now there's a potential new classification for JW's lol. maybe somebody would want to design a treatment paradigm for that 'new' disorder....(lollol)
    reDUNdant gregg(oops,meant scott) can show us the defining features of said disorder thru his grandiose postings lol....he's a hoot,hugs,tina

  • Farkel
    Farkel

    larc,

    As I said, Dunny is a DipFuck. How many more words does it take than that? He keeps proving it everytime he posts.

    Country Joe,

    : What did it feel like to have your "Paradigm Shift" on you?

    It hurt like hell, that's what. I had to take three laxatives before I could finally pass that paradigm sucker. It kept "shifting" on me. I hate it when that happens.

    (I also hate New-Age terms like "paradigm" when we could use common sense terms for a word like "paradigm" or more specifically "paradigms": "that's twenty cents." Ok. That was a bad pun. I'll go back in my corner now.)

    Farkel

  • ladonna
    ladonna

    (((((((((Tina))))))))))

    I was ROTFL....

    But I wanted Duns to explain.......

    Farkel: Please don't go back into your corner, you make yourself sound like you are one of Duns Prospective case studies .....and we know that just ain't true!!!!!

    Nothing else to say!!! I think my nexy post is going to be in really bad taste.......I suffer MPD Tina, so I can blame Ladonna for what Ana does......

    Ana

    "Good music is very close to primitive language."

  • ladonna
    ladonna

    Parts of what follows below were actually painful to write. However, because of the ongoing misinformation campaigns launched by Dr. Duns Scott, Ph.D. and his emissaries, I feel it is my duty to write this. Here's my side of the story: Dr. Scott says he's going to lay the foundation for some serious mischief before you know it. Good old Dr. Scott. He just loves to open his mouth and let all kinds of things come out without listening to how ghastly they sound. Take, for example, the most macabre finks I've ever seen. Now look at Dr. Scott. If you don't believe there's a similarity, then consider that if he were paying attention -- which it would seem he is not, as I've already gone over this -- he'd see that he spouts the same bile in everything he writes, making only slight modifications to suit the issue at hand. The issue he's excited about this week is sesquipedalianism, which says to me that Dr. Scott has stated that merit is adequately measured by his methods and qualifications. One clear inference from that statement -- an inference that is never really disavowed -- is that the Universe belongs to him by right. Now that's just narrow-minded. Dr. Scott contends that he knows the "right" way to read Plato, Maimonides, and Machiavelli. Excuse me, but where exactly did this little factoid come from?

    It's not just the lunatic fringe that's in his corner; a number of previously respectable people have recently begun backing Dr. Scott. By the end of the decade, his poison will infect us, sicken us, and destroy us. By the way, saying that last sentence out loud is a nice way to get to the point quickly at a cocktail party. Even if we accepted his vituperations, so what? Does that mean that it's okay for Dr. Scott to indulge his every whim and lust without regard for anyone else or for society as a whole? Of course not.

    After hearing about his deluded attempts to exploit the general public's short attention span in order to rely on the psychological effects of terror to magnify the localized effects of his inclinations so that, like a stone hurled into a pool of water, shock waves ripple from the epicenter of Dr. Scott's attacks to the furthest reaches of the Earth, I was saddened. I was saddened that he has lowered himself to this level. His slogans are tinctured with absolutism. With this central point cleared up, the rest of Dr. Scott's arguments are rendered moot, as his personal attacks cannot stand on their own merit. That's why they're dependent on elaborate artifices and explanatory stories to convince us that Dr. Scott is the one who will lead us to our great shining future. If he wants to be taken seriously, he should counter the arguments in this letter with facts, not illogical panaceas, personal anecdotes, or insults. In effect, I'm sure Dr. Scott wouldn't want me to eavesdrop on his conversations. So why does he want to deny minorities a cultural voice? That is, why is he so compelled to complain about situations over which he has no control? In classic sophist fashion, I ask another question in reply: What exactly is he trying to hide? After days of agonized pondering and reflection, I finally came to the conclusion that I believe I have found my calling. My calling is to address the real issues faced by mankind. And just let him try and stop me. In short, Dr. Duns Scott, Ph.D.'s drones are united through alcoholism, racialism, and negativism.

    I tried...I tried...I really did...but La Donna is stronger than me!!

    La Donna

    "Good music is very close to primitive language."

  • Country Joe
    Country Joe

    Hi Riz,
    Is this a fun thread or what?
    Amazing what one can learn by dropping in on one of Dunsie's posts.
    Why, today I learned what a DipFuck was, and that water is an Objective Phenomenon.
    I also learned that those two very things I just learned could also be associative. In other words; A DipFuck is one who claims that water is an Objective Phenomenon.
    Pretty Cool, Eh What?
    I got a neighbor friend, Tom, who is a Plumber. Tom is a classic New Yorker complete with accent.
    I think I'll mosey over there some time soon and say;
    "Hey Tom! Did you happen to know that water is an objective phenomenon? This guy name Kripke thought that up while contending for Aristotle's moniker and he eventually had to come to the conclusion that water everywhere on the planet has the same rigid designation, in other words, H2O. Not only that, this same Kripke guy also came to the earth shattering conclusion that your table is NOT made of Ice. You might also be happy to know that you can't apodiclically prove that it ain't made of ice.
    So, Tom, what do you think about all that and this Kripke feller?"

    Tom is Cool! He'll probably call me a DipFuck.

    If the Dunsman ever got around to fixing a leaking water pipe, he will soon discover another phenomenon of water. That is, water's amazing ability for finding a way out of something that is trying real hard to hold it in. For those of us who try so hard to keep water in its designated place of the moment, we might call it a "Pain in the Ass" phenomenon.

    I think we should all try this one sometime soon.
    The next time you see a bunch of teenagers hanging around the corner store or street lamp, who are also displaying the classic signs of belonging to some minority group due to some sort of familial heritage and background, just go up to them and say;
    "Hi guys! I am very interested in the quiddity of your race as well as the whatness of your intelligence as it pertains to your particular minoric tendencies. As you all know, these issues have a broad impact on you young people undergoing social justice in modern society. My brother Firpo Carr knows your issues very well. I am also quite interested in assisting any of you who may be suffering from any of the various forms of mental illness. Mind you, I'm not trying to be monomanical, and I'm not even a Doctor quite yet, but just one who is interested in your quiddity and whatness. Heres my card! Give me a call and we'll do lunch."

    This would be a good one for Candid Camera.

    Well Riz, I hope you learned almost as much as me today.
    See Ya

    Farkel,
    LOL!!! And if you thought THAT hurt, then I reckon trying to pass a Parodimes will make you pass right out on the floor for sure.
    I hear tell that a "Paroquarters Shift" will just flat out Kill.

    Here is some "New Age" from 1875. It might be "Old Age" now.
    "Theosophy: founded by Helena Petrovna Blavatsky(1831-18910 in 1875.
    Blended metaphysical thought, spiritualism, science, Transcendentalism and Quimby's concepts of mental healing power into one vast worldview that allegedly explained the nature of the entire Cosmos"
    What a Deal! Finally a religion for One Stop Shoppers. No need to change hats here. You can wear them all at the same time.

    Joe

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