Right on, Gary
The key word here is "IF". Here's how it should read.
"It appears that you are going to die before the start of Christ's Millennial Reign . . . "
Actually, Gary, I have been re-reading the Studies in the Scriptures and Russell said that the Millennial Reign would start no later than 1914. So I guess everyone since then has been dying after the start of the Millennial Reign.
And wasn’t the MR supposed to start around 1975 too?
w68
8/15 p. 499 Why Are You Looking Forward to 1975? ***Are we to assume from this study that the battle of Armageddon will be all over by the
autumn of 1975, and the long-looked-for thousand-year reign of Christ will begin by then? Possibly, but we wait to see how closely the seventh thousand-year period of man’s existence coincides with the sabbathlike thousand-year reign of Christ. If these two periods run parallel with each other as to the calendar year, it will not be by mere chance or accident but will be according to Jehovah’s loving and timely purposes. Our chronology, however, which is reasonably accurate (but admittedly not infallible), at the best only points to the autumn of 1975 as the end of 6,000 years of man’s existence on earth. It does not necessarily mean that 1975 marks the end of the first 6,000 years of Jehovah’s seventh creative "day." Why not? Because after his creation Adam lived some time during the "sixth day," which unknown amount of time would need to be subtracted from Adam’s 930 years, to determine when the sixth seven-thousand-year period or "day" ended, and how long Adam lived into the "seventh day." And yet the end of that sixth creative "day" could end within the same Gregorian calendar year of Adam’s creation. It may involve only a difference of weeks or months, not years.Hi Luna2
I guess once they get past this bad patch of having to convince the R & F that resurrection and not living through the great trib and Armageddon should be the real hope, they (the GB and friends) will be able to breathe easier. Gotta be tough when one of the support beams of your religion has just about rotted through.
They have already convinced them that organ transplants were always okay, that alternative service was always a conscience matter, that they had not been telling the rank and file that the people living in 1914 had to be alive when the end came, why not this?
Haha, Pole
Ah, you mean WHAT DOES RESURRECTION REALLY MEAN FOR me?
What Does the Bible REALLY Teach?
What Does the WT REALLY Mean?
Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.
Hey will power.
UNANSWERED?
Unanswered by the WTS. The only answer that matters. They speak for God and Christ on earth as they only channel, so they have to explain what Jesus meant.
Actually, the WTS has answered this question; People resurrected to life on earth as humans will not be getting married, having sex, making or having children. End of discussion.
w87
6/1 p. 31 Questions From Readers ***So if a Christian finds it hard to accept the conclusion that resurrected ones will not marry, he can be sure that God and Christ are understanding.
Hi, heathen
Likely, all such integrity keepers will be resurrected early in Jesus’ Millennial Reign.
The WTS taught that the MR would start in 1925 and that is why they said Abraham and other ancient worthies would be resurrected and ruling in Jerusalem by then. I guess not.
Now the WTS tries to keep some shine on the unique privilege by telling the rank and file they won’t be dead long.
Hey jgnat, hang on, jgnat, hang on,Thanks to the articles, he has been exercising his imagination and gearing himself up in anticipation of this wonderful world to come.
That’s because his place in the WT world is so unpleasant. Wanting love and acceptance but never measuring up.
When he is obstreporous, hug or kiss him.
Senor Flash,
Their overlooking the vast
RE-educational work
that also has to be done to God's people. Freeing them from the negitive conditioning they've recieved from all man made rules the GB has heaped on them over the decades
Oh, no their current style of education will become earth wide. That is when I started thinking I didn’t want to be in the new world of the WTS making.
Armageddon Story
http://www.macgregorministries.org/jehovahs_witnesses/armagsurv.htmlI'm begining to believe that the GT is started by man and/or Satan
Actually, the WTS teaches that the GT starts with the UN destroying religion but that the one thought is put in their mind by God. So the UN/Satan starts it but God is supposedly pulling the strings. (just explaining WT doctrine)
Rocketman (hug),
Ah, good to see some of those quotes about 1925
The first time I read these statements, I wondered, why haven’t I heard anything about this? Except for an out-dated WT publication (1959), there was nothing until 1975. It’s amazing how arrogant Rutherford was and how foolish WT members were to follow him. What date-setters the WTS has been and to think that Russell said in kindly judgment on William Miller for thinking Christ was coming in 1844.
Ozziepost (how you feeling?)
The resurrection hope as promoted by the dubs is of families being reunited on a paradise earth. It wasn't so long ago of course when this would have meant hoping for everlasting life separated as families. Why? Because those of the family with "the heavenly hope" would be 'up there' whilst the rest of the family hoped to live forever down here on earth.
Actually, I have know several married couples where the husband or the wife was anointed and the other spouse was not. The Memorial was not a happy time for them. If people worry about not remarrying their resurrection spouse on earth, how about the WTS prospect of never seeing them again, forever?
I was just reading another quip by the WTS that Aquila and Priscilla are not worried that they can’t have sex in heaven, and Mary isn’t blubbering because she is in heaven and will never seen Joseph again since he is being resurrected to life on earth.
Bonnie_clyde
When I first became a witness, back in the 50's, we always referred to the "new world." Then it changed to "new order." As you said, it is now "new world" again. Do you or anyone else remember the dates of the changes?
It’s hard to track new world because of NWT mentions but
1953-1961 (peak) New World society (trickle by 1968)
1964-1972 (peak) new system of things (starts up again in 1985)
1962-1986 (peak) new order
1985-now new world and new system
Once the WTS used the phrase Jehovah’s Christian Witnesses
1964-1978 peak then never again unless they are quoting from an older publication; hmmmm
Zeke,
With an increasing majority facing death in this world, is the WTS softening a crystal clear doctrine as stated by Jesus in three gospel accounts?
Won’t be the first time the WTS has flipflopped on a doctrine.
Superior authorities
1879-1929 Secular authorities
1929-1962 God and Jesus
1962-2005 secular authorities
And there are the poor people in Sodom and Gomorrah, in and out Gehenna several times
Hey Bluesbrother,
I just wonder how they felt today at the meeting, Having this whole tragedy brought up and discussed. Come to that, the local dubs who know them well, would also find it upsetting. How would we feel if this deeply personal tragedy were the subject of the paragraph. I am sure there are some Watchtower Overseers , and readers in Lancashire who find it very difficult today.
Perhaps that is why they left off the last name in the WT article, you think? Not!
After all, the WTS would tell them they are not supposed to be like the world and trot out his scripture.
Moreover, brothers, we do not want YOU to be ignorant concerning those who are sleeping [in death]; that YOU may not sorrow just as the rest also do who have no hope.
1 THESSALONIANS 4:13Good comments, everyone. I learn from you every week.
Love, Blondie
