Can you refute these?

by Mary Phooty 100 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • myelaine
    myelaine

    A sword is against the Chaldeans, says the LORD, against the inhabitants of Babylon, and against her princes and her wise men.

    A sword is against the soothsayers, and they will be fools. A sword is against her mighty men, and they will be dismayed. A sword is against their horses, against their chariots, and against all the mixed peoples who are in her midst; and they will become like women. A sword is against her treasures, and they will be robbed.

    A drought is against her waters, and they will be dried up. For it is the land of carved images, and they are insane with their idols.

    And I heard another voice from heaven saying, Come out of her, my people, lest you share in her sins, and lest you receive of her plagues. For her sins have reached to heaven, and God has remembered her iniquities.

    love michelle

  • myelaine
    myelaine

    For Tyre built herself a tower, heaped up silver like dust, and gold like the mire of the streets.

    Behold, the LORD will cast her out; He will destroy her power in the sea, and she will be devoured by fire.

    Thus says the LORD of hosts: Let your hands be strong, you who have been hearing in these days these words by the mouth of the prophets, who were in the day that the foundation was laid for the house of the LORD of hosts, that the temple might be built. For the seed shall be prosperous, the vine shall give its fruit, the ground shall give her increase, and the heavens shall give their dew, I will cause the remnant of this people to possess all these things. And it shall come to pass that just as you were a curse among nations, O house of Judah and house of Israel, so I will save you, and you shall be a blessing.

    Do not fear, let your hands be strong.

    love michelle

  • Hellrider
    Hellrider

    Right, you`re three last posts makes absolutely no sense at all. Is there a some sort of a code in there somewhere, or something? If it`s JW-propaganda, you must excuse me, it`s been sixteen years since I got out, I just found this site cause lately I`ve felt the need to talk to people with similar backgrounds, cause I just can`t shake all the depression and crap this cult has brought me, it`s been with me all my adult life. So if there was something in there that I didn`t understand, well, I haven`t read the Bible very thoroughly in a few years now, I should really do it again real soon. But if there was some "code" or something in there, Michelle, I didn`t quite get it.

  • myelaine
    myelaine

    Dear Hellrider,

    Jesus loves YOU, He died for YOU. His blood is the only blood that washes away sin, it covers YOU in the day of the LORDS wrath.

    The Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit know this TRUTH. Why wont YOU know it?

    love michelle

  • doogie
    doogie

    hellrider:

    Right, you`re three last posts makes absolutely no sense at all. Is there a some sort of a code in there somewhere, or something? If it`s JW-propaganda, you must excuse me

    hope you brought your special decoder ring!

    yeah, if you find out the code, could you let the rest of us know? mye pops up every now and again for some good ole proselytizing action. she's not a JW (she could've told you that, but i guess she didn't feel like it), more like a born again or something. i know...the last thing we need (or will passively listen to) is MORE preaching after our time with the JWs, but some people apparently just don't get it.

    have fun!

  • myelaine
    myelaine

    Dear Hellrider,

    I found this for you. I send it with lovingkindness, from me to you.....

    Then I hated all my labor in which I had toiled under the sun, because I must leave it to the man who will come after me. And who knows whether he will be a wise man or a fool? Yet he will rule over all my labor in which I toiled and in which I have shown myself wise under the sun.This also is vanity.Therefore I turned my heart and despaired of all the labor in which I had toiled under the sun. For what HAS man for all his labor, and for the striving of his heart with which he has toiled under the sun?For all his days are sorrowful, and his work is grievious; even in the night his heart takes no rest.

    This also is vanity and a great evil.

    For there is a man whose labor is with wisdom, knowledge, and skill; yet he must leave his heritage to a man who has not labored for it.

    There is nothing better for a man than that he should eat and drink, and that his soul sould enjoy good in his labor. This also I saw, was from the hand of God. For who can eat, or who can have more enjoyment than I? For God gives wisdom and knowledge and joy to a man who is good in His sight; but to the sinner He gives the work of gathering and collecting, that he may give to him who is good before God.

    This also is vanity and grasping for the wind.(Ecc2:18-26ish)

    love michelle

  • sweet tee
    sweet tee

    What the hurl is goin on around here? I feel like I just stepped into the twilight zone!

  • tetrapod.sapien
    tetrapod.sapien
    His blood is the only blood that washes away sin, it covers YOU...

    gross! so, my sin gets washed away, but i remain covered in blood? okaydokee...

  • greendawn
    greendawn

    Tetra you are taking this too literally there is a mystical symbolic meaning to the concept of blood.

  • Hellrider
    Hellrider

    sweet tee, you just did. She`s...well...a little special, I would say..

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