Watchtower and UN?

rambaldi

Is this issue of the Watchtower being part of the UN Department of Public Information of any significance?

At the District conventions of Jehovah’s Witnesses there are flags of the United States and other sovereign government such as states or other countries hanging from the buildings. The Governing Body and the Watchtower Society rent buildings which become the equivalent of Kingdom Halls for the weekend. Jehovah’s Witnesses don’t find a problem with those flags hanging there. Why is that? To us, they are simply pieces of cloth. Nothing more. We don't honor or look to them beyond that.

Why would it be any different for this UN DPI thing? The Department of Public Information is simply that - A place to get information. Nothing more. It has nothing to do with support anymore than the flags hanging at the conventions mean that everyone is pledging allegiance to those flags. Because there are forms that needed to fill out does not change those prior statements.

The next principle to consider is: How does the actions of an individual working at the Watchtower Society affect the organization? It doesn’t. The organization is lead by Jesus Christ through the Governing Body. I don’t recall the governing body having a vote on the matter and then publishing the matter to the organization. So…

As I said, It is a non-issue.

mtbatoon

Sure we had this yesterday

greendawn

The real issue is that if the R & F did the same they would be expelled from the jws and given what such an expulsion entails the double standard here is inadmissible.

DannyBloem

is this not the same as yesterday

hamsterbait

Ram has simply uplifted his first post from the thread THE REAL DEAL: SILENCING THE CRITICS PART 2.

Either he doesn't want any lurkers to hear the replies made or he doesn't want to read any of them himself.

Either way it's a good example of witnessthink. Leave the door where people don't agree with you and go knock on the next to say the same thing all over again.

HB

funkyderek

rambaldi:

You already posted this yesterday and you got a lot of replies, which you seem to have ignored. Making the same post multiple times will get you marked as a troll, and you may be deleted from the board. Assuming it's some sort of honest mistake though, I'll take the time to answer this again:

The Department of Public Information is simply that - A place to get information. Nothing more. It has nothing to do with support anymore than the flags hanging at the conventions mean that everyone is pledging allegiance to those flags. Because there are forms that needed to fill out does not change those prior statements.

The Watchtower didn't approach the DPI for information - they joined it, thereby agreeing to provide information. The statement on the UN website that I posted yesterday is quite clear on this:

By accepting association with DPI, the organization agreed to meet criteria for association, including support and respect of the principles of the Charter of the United Nations and commitment and means to conduct effective information programmes with its constituents and to a broader audience about UN activities.

Now, rambaldi, unless the UN is lying about its criteria for membership, the Watchtower Society has violated its neutrality and hypocritically aligned itself with the principles and goals of an organisation it believes to be Satanic in origin.

zagor

Right. OR maybe it is because of this ...

September 15th, 1951, Watchtower:

"Unlike the republic of Israel, this anointed remnant of spiritual Israel were separated from this old world and were made clean from selfish politics, greedy commerce and demonic religion, all of which make up the official elements of this world. (Isa. 52:11) Refusing to enter partnership with the abominable League of Nations or the United Nations..."

Sunspot

The Watchtower didn't approach the DPI for information - they joined it, thereby agreeing to provide information

They not only JOINED it, they SECRETLY (to the rank & file JWs) SIGNED UP with it and for TEN YEARS!!!!!!

OOOOPS IT WAS A MISTAKE! HOW COULD ANYONE (BATTING EYELASHES HERE) EVER ACCUSE US OF BEING SNEAKY??????

AND..........as soon as the R & F caught wind of it-----POOF-----didn't all this "information getting" become dissolved! HMMMMMMMM??????? (Big surprise here!)

Mother was caught wth her pants down around her so-called pristine ankles and her kiddies were scurrying around trying to clean HER up as well as her uh... prostitute-like activities. They had to hose her down and prop her back up to a semi-standing position and hope the JWs will buy into whatever feeble and LYING excuse they'll have to offer to them.

Your "Mother" is a filthy and lying whore---tainted, stained, sneaky, greedy, and (according to the UN itself) did NOT NEED any library card to get into the library to (cough) "gain information"---secretly or otherwise!

I am amazed that you "bought this" crap!!!

Would YOU want to part of a religion that had LIED TO YOU????

Apparently so, Rambaldi, apparently so.

Annie...of the "can I MAKE this any clearer" class

zagor

that was at the time when you would get DF for, say, working for an org affiliated with UN. Oh that's right you still would according to new "organized" book.

zagor

Rabaldi,
... and how about you do a bit of research on this subject before posting here ‘cause it is really tiring explaining everything from the beginning to every dub that barges here flaming with half-thought through arguments (if at all). There’s so much info available on this topic that is mind-boggling. So after going through all of that and if you then have some new point of view hidden from all of us by all means post here. But as long as your post is nothing more than mind’s jerk-off you’re just making fool out of your self. Nuff said.

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