Watchtower and UN?

by rambaldi 34 Replies latest watchtower scandals

  • HappyDad
    HappyDad

    The organization is lead by Jesus Christ through the Governing Body.

    Does this mean that Jesus is causing all the heartache and grief that is happening to so many who are only wanting to worship Jehovah to the best of their ability? Does this also mean that Jesus doesn't give a hoot about his sheep by appointing (through holy spirit) a bunch of idiots who don't have a clue about what it is to make a living, pay bills and raise a family?

    As I said, It is a non-issue.

    Then why did you start another thread on the same subject? Were you afraid to read the comments from your first post?

    HappyDad

  • PaulJ
    PaulJ

    I think the man's on a mission

  • sweet tee
    sweet tee

    Hi Rambaldi - Basically if it's not an issue to YOU then it's NOT an issue.

    Nothing more to see here ... move along, move along.

  • JGraves
    JGraves

    The document from the UN web page, *CLEARLY* shows an affiliation with the UN

    http://www.un.org/dpi/ngosection/watchtower.pdf

    the document above CLEARLY shows the association and therefore a *COVER* up!!!

    THEY ARE LYING!!! Research "LIE" in the insight books

    THE WTBTS ORGANISATION is desperately unclean before Jehovah!!!

    2 Thes 2:1-12

    July 10th !!! 555 5 555 http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/11/92356/1.ashx

    READ MARK 13:1 Very very slowly

    Notice there is a comma missing...

    Find out if there are any quote in the WTBTS literature *ANYWHERE* of Mark 13:1???


    THERE ARE NONE!!! - NOT IN A Watchtower Awake or Insight volumes...

    WHY IS THAT???

    http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/11/92356/1.ashx The following is cut and pasted from the Insight Volume 2 P244 on 'Lie' LIE

    The opposite of truth. Lying generally involves saying something false to a person who is entitled to know the truth and doing so with the intent to deceive or to injure him or another person. A lie need not always be verbal. It can also be expressed in action, that is, a person may be living a lie. The Hebrew verb that conveys the idea of speaking that which is untrue is ka·zav´. (Pr 14:5) Another Hebrew verb sha·qar´ means "deal or act falsely," and the noun form is rendered "lie; deception; falsehood." (Le 19:11; Ps 44:17; Le 19:12; Ps 33:17; Isa 57:4) Hebrew shaw´, at times rendered "untruth; falsehood," basically refers to something worthless, vain, valueless. (Ps 12:2; De 5:20; Ps 60:11; 89:47; Zec 10:2) The Hebrew verb ka·chash´ (deceive) evidently has the basic meaning "prove disappointing." (Le 19:11; Ho 9:2) The Greek term pseu´dos and related words have to do with lying and falsehood.

    The father, or originator, of lying is Satan the Devil. (Joh 8:44) His lie conveyed by means of a serpent to the first woman Eve ultimately brought death to her and to her husband Adam. (Ge 3:1-5, 16-19) That first lie was rooted in selfishness and wrong desire. It was designed to divert the love and obedience of the first human pair to the liar, who had presented himself as an angel of light, a benefactor. (Compare 2Co 11:14.) All other malicious lies uttered since that time have likewise been a reflection of selfishness and wrong desire. People have told lies to escape deserved punishment, to profit at the expense of others, and to gain or maintain certain advantages, material rewards, or the praise of men.

    Especially serious have been the religious lies, as they have endangered the future life of persons deceived by them. Said Jesus Christ: "Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! because you traverse sea and dry land to make one proselyte, and when he becomes one you make him a subject for Gehenna twice as much so as yourselves." (Mt 23:15) The exchange of God’s truth for "the lie," the falsehood of idolatry, can cause a person to become a practicer of what is degrading and vile.—Ro 1:24-32.

    The case of the religious leaders of Judaism in the time of Jesus’ earthly ministry shows what can happen when one abandons the truth. They schemed to have Jesus put to death. Then, when he was resurrected, they bribed the soldiers who had guarded the tomb so they would conceal the truth and spread a lie about the disappearance of Jesus’ body.—Mt 12:14; 27:1, 2, 62-65; 28:11-15; Mr 14:1; Lu 20:19.

    Jehovah God cannot lie (Nu 23:19; Heb 6:13-18), and he hates "a false tongue." (Pr 6:16-19) His law to the Israelites required compensation for injuries resulting from deception or malicious lying. (Le 6:2-7; 19:11, 12) And a person presenting false testimony was to receive the punishment that he desired to inflict upon another by means of his lies. (De 19:15-21) God’s view of malicious lying, as reflected in the Law, has not changed. Those desiring to gain his approval cannot engage in the practice of lying. (Ps 5:6; Pr 20:19; Col 3:9, 10; 1Ti 3:11; Re 21:8, 27; 22:15) They cannot be living a lie, claiming to love God while hating their brother. (1Jo 4:20, 21) For playing false to the holy spirit by lying, Ananias and his wife lost their lives.—Ac 5:1-11.

    However, persons who are momentarily overreached in telling a lie do not automatically become guilty of an unforgivable sin. The case of Peter, in denying Jesus three times, illustrates that if a person is truly repentant, God will forgive him.—Mt 26:69-75.

    While malicious lying is definitely condemned in the Bible, this does not mean that a person is under obligation to divulge truthful information to people who are not entitled to it. Jesus Christ counseled: "Do not give what is holy to dogs, neither throw your pearls before swine, that they may never trample them under their feet and turn around and rip you open." (Mt 7:6) That is why Jesus on certain occasions refrained from giving full information or direct answers to certain questions when doing so could have brought unnecessary harm. (Mt 15:1-6; 21:23-27; Joh 7:3-10) Evidently the course of Abraham, Isaac, Rahab, and Elisha in misdirecting or in withholding full facts from nonworshipers of Jehovah must be viewed in the same light.—Ge 12:10-19; chap 20; 26:1-10; Jos 2:1-6; Jas 2:25; 2Ki 6:11-23.

    Jehovah God allows "an operation of error" to go to persons who prefer falsehood "that they may get to believing the lie" rather than the good news about Jesus Christ. (2Th 2:9-12) This principle is illustrated by what happened centuries earlier in the case of Israelite King Ahab. Lying prophets assured Ahab of success in war against Ramoth-gilead, while Jehovah’s prophet Micaiah foretold disaster. As revealed in vision to Micaiah, Jehovah allowed a spirit creature to become "a deceptive spirit" in the mouth of Ahab’s prophets. That is to say, this spirit creature exercised his power upon them so that they spoke, not truth, but what they themselves wanted to say and what Ahab wanted to hear from them. Though forewarned, Ahab preferred to be fooled by their lies and paid for it with his life.—1Ki 22:1-38; 2Ch 18.

    555 5 555

  • crazyblondeb
    crazyblondeb

    He must be getting confused which site he's started which topic seeing how he's posting the same shit on the other boards.

    Maybe it's time I used some of my wiccan ways!

    Maybe it's time you ought to go out in field service and try and sell the bullshit to someone who might be foolish enough to get suckered into your ramblings!

  • Elsewhere
    Elsewhere
    Why would it be any different for this UN DPI YMCA thing? The Department of Public Information YMCA is simply that - A place to get information exercise and play sports. Nothing more. It has nothing to do with support anymore than the flags hanging at the conventions mean that everyone is pledging allegiance to those flags. Because there are forms that needed to fill out does not change those prior statements.

    Rabaldi,

    Too find out just how much of a big deal this isn't, why don't you go to your local YMCA and sign up to use their exersice facilities and play basket ball. Once you get your ID card go and show it to your fine brothers and sisters at the congregation and then start your stop-watch to see how long it takes for the elders to hall your ass into the "back room" for a little chat.

  • upside/down
    upside/down

    Too find out just how much of a big deal this isn't, why don't you go to your local YMCA and sign up to use their exersice facilities and play basket ball. Once you get your ID card go and show it to your fine brothers and sisters at the congregation and then start your stop-watch to see how long it takes for the elders to hall your ass into the "back room" for a little chat.

    Or for that matter attend a wedding at ANY church...or hell raise a "toast".... and watch the goon squad weep and gnash their teeth in horror... AT YOU!

    u/d (of the it takes one to know one class.....and I'm still one.)

  • mrsjones5
  • Sunspot
    Sunspot

    LOL @ Mrs Jones!!!!!

  • Stealth
    Stealth

    I only see the YMCA as a swimming pool, nothing more. I don't have a problem joining so I can use the services of the YMCA to gain better health. It's a non-issue, Right?

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