How many of you consider yourselves Pagan?

by FreedomFrog 41 Replies latest jw friends

  • FreedomFrog
    FreedomFrog
    Ironic isn't it that people outside of the "love" of christianity seem to be the least judgemental.

    I was thinking the same thing.

    It's nice to be able to say something and have someone bring up something that makes you think and not judge you (lol)...I'm not sure now if a witch is or is not a pagan, I thought I KNEW but now that the topic has been brought up, I need to do more research. I feel that its nice not knowing it all. More to learn...hehe, as long as I don't get too big of a headache.

    *Froggie runs to get headache meds.*

  • hopelesslystained
    hopelesslystained

    there is much of the craft practiced within the catholic church by a few and quietly. some not so quietly. have you ever visited a "botanica"? There is much superstition and herbal use. I take what pleases me and skip the superstition part. Im not aware of any 'name' description for those who have integrated their earth and 'blessed mother' beliefs with the catholics. just know they exist.

  • doofdaddy
    doofdaddy

    I live in the forest

    The house is made from the earth and timbers cut from the site. I have many animals living around me and sometimes with me. At first this was disconcerting, but we have learned to get along (mostly).

    I have had many experiences with animals and unusual happenings at sacred sites to be coincidences. I have spent quite a lot of time with Goori people(Australian indigenous people in this area) and some time with "clever men".

    Obviously, I cannot speak in detail as that is "mens business" but all I can say is that the natural world around us has a lot more going on than we or at least I realised.

    It is difficult for me to label my experiences but Shamanism would be the closest. I did not choose this path and was terrified at times from the dreams, premonitions, the, out of controlness and being able to see "sickness"of the spirit in people.

    Sometimes I thought I was imagining things, going crazy but others have been with me at times and have seen animals do strange things around me. One recent example was a pod of dolphins followed us up a beach. My friend who was with me laughed when I told him they are reincarnated blackfellas who save any aboriginal person drowning. He went surfing while I sat and sang to them. They stayed an hour in a tight group. I decided to swim and called to them to introduce myself and that I was was only visiting. As soon as I was in deep enough water, they raced over and circled me. Twenty dolphins. Mothers, babies and the big males. I dived under to see them.

    After getting out, my friend paddled in with a slightly scared but elated look on his face. We sat in the sun for an hour, then walked the mile back to the car with the pod at our sides. As we started on the track, we looked back and the dolphins took off. Wild dolphins spent 4 hrs with us. The lesson was for him. It was to be playful like a child, to see the mystery in life and embrace it. They were his feelings not mine.

    I feel uncomfortable even telling this simple story as often it is talking into the wind of the uninitiated but I hope and have confidence that someone will read this and find a spark ignited.

    One last thing. I have stated this before but I believe that people need to be careful what path they choose. Tickling the ego is not a solid reason to inquire into the under world of the spirit.

  • upside/down
    upside/down
    I am that I am.

    So you're a Popeyeist?

    u/d (of the likes spinach too class)

  • upside/down
    upside/down

    I saw a bumper sticker...

    "BORN AGAIN PAGAN"...

    loved it.

    u/d

  • riotgirlpeeps
    riotgirlpeeps
    One last thing. I have stated this before but I believe that people need to be careful what path they choose. Tickling the ego is not a solid reason to inquire into the under world of the spirit.

    I couldn't agree more, though sometimes that path chooses us.

  • talesin
    talesin

    doofdaddy

    Amazing! Thank you for your post. Thing is, talking to my mom today, she brought up how she remembered my lifetime desire to live in the wilderness in a very similar way that you do ... I haven't told anyone about it for many years, as the dream has never been actualized. I've never felt it was achievable 'on my own'.

    Much joy to you, you have embraced a way of life and being that is rare in our western cultures. I am a tad envious, I will admit.

    tal

  • diamondblue1974
    diamondblue1974

    depends on what is meant by pagan really...

    1. a. A person not subscribing to any major or recognized religion, esp. the dominant religion of a particular society; spec. a heathen, a non-Christian, esp. considered as savage, uncivilized, etc. Now chiefly hist. - Oxford English Dictionary

    Yeah I would agree that the above applies...although not savage or uncivilised.

  • FreedomFrog
    FreedomFrog
    Obviously, I cannot speak in detail as that is "mens business" but all I can say is that the natural world around us has a lot more going on than we or at least I realised.

    I too believe that there is more...LOTS more...than we understand or realize. And if we just open our minds up a bit more and not be held down with what men teaches or the way they want us to live our lives, then it will be that much closer to the answer...in my opinion.

    I did not choose this path and was terrified at times from the dreams, premonitions, the, out of controlness and being able to see "sickness"of the spirit in people.

    I think you may have been terrified because of what was told to you. "Whoaaa, be careful not to allow demons in you" and "The demons will take control of you"....in this modern day Christian saturated world, everything is associated with demons. Now I don't believe in demons. I believe that it's people allowing bad things to happen...lots of bad energy. And perhaps even mischievous spirits. But not an all powerful Devil that can control you at your every move. Don't believe that.

    Sometimes I thought I was imagining things, going crazy but others have been with me at times and have seen animals do strange things around me. One recent example was a pod of dolphins followed us up a beach. My friend who was with me laughed when I told him they are reincarnated blackfellas who save any aboriginal person drowning. He went surfing while I sat and sang to them. They stayed an hour in a tight group. I decided to swim and called to them to introduce myself and that I was was only visiting. As soon as I was in deep enough water, they raced over and circled me. Twenty dolphins. Mothers, babies and the big males. I dived under to see them.

    WOW...what a wonder experience. That must have taken your breath away from amazement.

    I feel uncomfortable even telling this simple story as often it is talking into the wind of the uninitiated but I hope and have confidence that someone will read this and find a spark ignited.

    I can understand because I have similar stories of "strange things" happening. And I normally don't tell my stories because I get..."well you were just seeing things" or "that was the demon"...Sheeeesh.

    But I will tell my story now...

    About 5 months ago, I lost my favorite bird Cheeko. I was so crushed and felt so responsible for her death. One night I layed down and was still hurting so bad about my bird being gone that I felt so sick. And then out of the corner of my eye I saw something. I turned and looked and there was my Grandfather in a red flannel shirt and jeans standing over me and smiling. Then he held his hand up and Cheeks flew on it. He knodded as in approval and showing me that Cheeko was quite ok. Ever since that vision, I've felt a since of peace. I even created a support forum for people grieving over their loss. It was a major turning point in my views of things. So I'm convienced that there is more to this world than we know it...I just don't know exactly what that is. And maybe won't know in this life...but it will reveal itself sooner or later. And I'm cool with that.

    One last thing. I have stated this before but I believe that people need to be careful what path they choose. Tickling the ego is not a solid reason to inquire into the under world of the spirit.

    I agree with this...I don't conjure up the spirit world. I do rituals for my sake. For my Divine. I don't "worship" them...just respect them. And I respect the spiritual world as well. Personally I follow the Shaman's way without focusing on the magick. I do what my heart tells me to do. And 9 times out of 10, if I don't listen to that little voice in my head I end up making the wrong choices. So I listen to me...to them. I pay more attention to what nature is trying to tell me. And it's such a relief knowing that it's MY path, not "so and so's". But MY personal path.

    I love these chats... Very refreshing!

    Froggie

  • crazyblondeb
    crazyblondeb

    Me too, me too!!!

    I'm wiccan, and proud of it!! (check out my avatar.) I believe wicca is an earth based religion, for each person to find their own way. It's a way of life, a belief system that reflects the way we interact with the world around us. There's one statement that reflects it's ethics/moral code: "And it harm none, do what you will." Nothing is to be done to harm another, or ourself.

    shelley

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