Are You For or Against The Death Penalty? (page 18)

jula71

Tetra, I like what your saying and agree to a point. But I have to disagree with the phrase "blood vendetta lust" that may some but it's a small minority. My thing is to protect the public, and yes it is a great deterrent. It certainly will deter that person from killing again. try to tell me it won't.

The problem is, it's used a tad recklessly. What I mean is it should not be an option in a case based a circumstantial evidence, or even eyewitness accounts, which can be mis-leading. If you have a guy, that knows the penalty, on a security camera taking a life during a robbery, why should it not be an option? I believe in personal responsibility, the person doing the crime very well knows the consequence his action may bring. It is his choice to act out the crime and face that penalty. How is that different from your "suicide" scenario?

Mary

Tetraopod said:Areally, now. no one needs to see the bloody disgusting video. enough disgusting things have already taken place by this asshole, showing the video would probably just make him laugh. but you miss the point. repaying torture, with yet more torture, is Jehovah's job, not ours, remember? I never said I'd torture Paul Bernardo...where did you get that from? However I do believe that the sick SOB deserves to pay for his crimes with his LIFE. Englishman said: Listen, someone hurts anyone in my family and of course I'd want to kill them. However, we hand justice over to a judge and jury so that the matter can be handled with some rationality. I agree. So what if the courts decide that the person who committed the crime should pay with his/her life? Just because someone behaves absolutely appallingly doesn't mean that we have to act in the same way. Violence breeds violence. If it's wrong to kill then it's wrong to kill right across the board Really? OK, let's say someone breaks into your house and they're attempting to rape your wife and/or child. You manage to get their gun away from them. You threaten to shoot if they don't stop. They won't stop. So what do you do? If it's "wrong to kill right across the board", do you just let the sicko continue what they're doing or do you shoot them?

tetrapod.sapien

maory,

I never said I'd torture Paul Bernardo...where did you get that from? However I do believe that the sick SOB deserves to pay for his crimes with his LIFE.

um, the death penalty is torture. they'll either fry, or choke, or bleed to death. torture, whether you think it so or not.

also, self deffense is different from formal state sponsored terrorism. if i have to kill someone to save my own life, or my wife's, then i will. and the law has accomodation for that. first though, i would do everything in my power to restrain the person, which is incidenttally what i think the state should be doing too. there is a huge difference between the two.

PopeOfEruke

I think Eman is on the right track. England after all worked out the perect solution. Round up all the murderers, rapists, thieves, thugs, Irish, Cockneys. Then send them to Australia. Thats a fate WORSE than death in any case.

Pope

talesin

I confess, I have not read the thread. :) I just clicked on this page and read Heathen's thoughts ...

Say I know , we will just deport all our murdering bastards to canada where they can be pampered ..................... NOT and just what are you saying that the romans were morally challenged ? Look around pally the world is morally challenged , the US goes around the world to find people they can execute and blow to pieces ..................

Sooooo effin true! Our society has degraded so far. And Canada is no better than the US,,, the GD ruling class is taking over, and people just refuse to see it!

tal

jula71

the US goes around the world to find people they can execute and blow to pieces ..................

I would have to disagree, that just made him look a bit wacky, but I'm sure he means well. But Tal, love ya so I'll tell ya, be careful sippin' the cool-aid, you don't know what's in it!

jeanniebeanz

Damn, it's hot in here!

*checks thermostat*

Well that'll have to be replaced for sure... *offers athletes valium or Labat Blue, whichever suits their fancy*

I believe that the death penalty has its place. However, given the difficulty in determining absolutely the guilt of a given miscreant, the idea of murdering an innocent is appalling.

Now, having said that, should someone harm anyone whom I love or murder them, I would have no qualms over removing them from this planet. Humanely as possible, of course. And spur of the moment to boot. Though, I would think that would be chalked up to knee-jerk reaction rather than political or moral stance.

*sips beer, tries to look intelligent*

J

jula71

got any more of those cold "blues" laying around????

sixsixsixtynine

yet the liberal rights movement will do everything they can do protect sexual predators and deviants.

Get real. Nobody is trying to "protect" sexual predators and deviants, that's not the point.

People opposed to it are trying protect innocent people from being executed.

And please, enough with the "I support it if it's obvious they're guilty" reasoning. That can never work. Ask anyone who's prosecuted a death penalty case, and they're always "100% sure" of the persons guilt.

It's not about sympathy for killers. It's about the fact that it will never be administered fairly, and that innocent people are being killed!

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Question for all you pro-death Christians: What do you think Jesus' opinion is? You know, considering he was an innocent person executed by the state?

heathen

Hi talesin . When did you move to Iraq or is that just make believe ? LOL All I can say is from what I've seen the US does go around the world blowing people up getting involved with things just because they want to rule the world through the UN . I mean come on , how many people have they murdered in Iraq since the gulf war or afghanistan ? just trying to get to a few people . For them to claim a moral high ground is insulting to anybody that knows anything about human decency .

BTW -- I never claimed to be a christian and don't believe the government should involve itself with religious thought via the seperation of church and state . It doesn't matter to me what they do as far as the death penalty but can see the benefit in just knocking off the people that murder , of course in an open shut case . I have been seeing alot of murderes getting off easy in this country but people that get caught making mistakes on income tax forms get it big time . what a friggen joke ...........

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