lilbit
Def D is an old nick name i had growing up. Yes I am an active Witness. Im trying to be the kind of witness Jehovah wants me to be not like the ones yall knew and alot of whom I know!
Gods Hero[s]
by Norm 45 Replies latest watchtower bible
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defd
Satanus
Yes, much better to repress and bully philistines than to be repressed and bullied. 'Course, the jews were taking away philistine lands.
If someone was picking on your younger brother or sister at school taking there lunch money and beating them up daily wouldnt you do something. Or worse yet if you had a SON or DAUGHTER being harrased, tell me you or any loving parent wouldnt take control of the situation!
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Satanus
Exactly. So, how can you blame the philistines?
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defd
you missed the point, The Philistines were the bullies and repressors
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Satanus
No, no, the jews were, as they grabbed philistine land.
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defd
LoL, this conversation is going to be fun. Now we need to go father back in time. We need to see why the philitines were ousted from there land. would you like to know?
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Satanus
why the philitines were ousted from there land.
So, you admit that the jews were taking their lands. I rest my case.
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Ps lurkers can read it here
*** Rbi8 Joshua 13:1-3 ***
13 Now Joshua was old, being advanced in years. So Jehovah said to him: "You yourself have grown old and have advanced in years, and to a very great extent the land yet remains to be taken in possession. 2 This is the land yet remaining: all the regions of the Phi·lis´tines and all the Gesh´ur·ites 3 (from the branch of the Nile that is in front of Egypt and up to the border of Ek´ron to the north, it used to be reckoned as belonging to the Ca´naan·ites); five axis lords of the Phi·lis´tines, the Ga´zites and the Ash´dod·ites, the Ash´ke·lon·ites, the Git´tites and the Ek´ron·ites; and the Av´vim.
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Satanus
dfd
Ps, if you want to compare philistine culture to jewish culture, maybe you could start a thread for that. If you do, will attempt to find info on the philistines.
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Hellrider
One more thing, defd: Were the Philistines also created by Jehovah? Of course they were, they were also descendants of Adam and Eve. That means God created them. Now, although some of their ancestors must have been "apostates" in one sense or the other (as they, although they were descendants of Adam and Eve, were no longer part of YHWHs "chosen people"), would it be fair that God allowed the Israelites to slay every man, and take their women and children as slaves, and take their sheeps and cattle? Would an almighty and kind God allow, and even support something like that? Try to think outside JW-doctrine...the philistines were people, you know! - human beings, with the same emotions, desires, love for their children, as the jews. And judging from the OT, their moral/ethical standards couldn`t possibly have been any lower than the jews` either. In another part of the Torah (can`t remember the exact passage), the jews are commanded (by God) to, when they come across a village/camp of heathens, to "slay every man, woman and child, and even the livestock, and afterwards to salt the earth, to make sure that noone could ever live there again! "
That`s the kind, fair and loving god, YHWH (you`re probably going to argue that they were in their right, now, because they didn`t worship YHWH...and that`s what makes it impossible to argue with JWs)
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Hellrider
def d, so quiet now? I`m still waiting for a reply as to why the God of all mankind would say it`s ok for one of the tribes (the Israelites) to massacre all of the others. Please tell, I`d really like to know.