by Ticker 67 Replies latest watchtower bible
sonnyboy:
The idiomotor effect suggests that the user is unconsciously moving the planchette, but does this mean that some other force is not causing them to move it?
No. What it means is that no other force is necessary. There may be other forces acting in addition to the ones we know about, but they don't seem to have any measurable effects.
Well, I don't believe it's "all in the mind" at all!
I was in about fourth grade when I used a Ouija board with some neighborhood friends. We were prepubescent, but interested in horses and horsebackriding as much as boys and the Beatles (<-- showing my age!).
Anyway, as in Mulan's case, the Ouija board told me the name of my future husband and also where we would live. At the time, I had a romantic idea that I would one day move to Denver, where I would have a ranch and lots of horses, especially Paints. Unfortunately, try as I might to influence the name of the city where I would live while married to "D-E-N-V-E-R", the board insisted on "D-E-T-R-O-I-T." I had NO idea why and was sorely disappointed. Didn't fit my plans!
Also, the board stopped at the letter "B" for the name of my future husband. Wouldn't budge. Years later, when I was 19 and had just returned from school in Europe, a psychic who was "rented" for a party I'd been invited to, told me that there was a man whose name began with a "B" who was important in my life. At the time, I thought, well, sure: My father and my brother were both "Bob" and I even had dated two Bobs before I went away to school. But she claimed it was not the Bobs or Roberts, definitely just a "B". I met my future husband a month or so later.
My husband of 26 years was named "Baltasar" but was known professionally, socially, and even in his nuclear family as "B," since Baltasar is a strange name in North America. He's an auto executive and we moved to Detroit a year after we'd married and have lived in the Detroit area for 20 of the past 27 years.
So, to me, it works and its power is uncanny. I wish I'd known of Randi's proposition and recorded that info when I was 10!
outnfree
outnfree:
So, to me, it works and its power is uncanny. I wish I'd known of Randi's proposition and recorded that info when I was 10!
Well, if it works uncannily, it will work again. right? It's hardly uncanny if it's a once-off. Take your board, use it to accurately predict the future, and claim your million dollars. It's that easy. Nobody's done it so far though. Maybe the spirits don't like people making money off them.
If its all in the mind then we should all have the power to conjure at will. No ouija board needed.
If its all in the mind then we should all have the power to conjure at will. No ouija board needed.
Likewise if it's real. Demons should be able to communicate with people without them using a cheap wooden toy.
Wow this is good stuff. I've read every post on here, amazing. I dont know personally what to believe im still unsure. I want to discredit it, but yet ive seen it spell out things and say things I can't discredit. Im a logical well educated person that wants to find the gears and pulleys behind it all, but truthfully I can't fully explain the Ouji board. I don't know what is behind it if it is truthfully supernatural, for all I know it could just be some gaia energy or a spirit.
Wednesday, that is interesting that you have dreams about future events. I have had such dreams also, not that im claiming any psychic powers, just relating from my experience. I had a dream once that I was at a funeral and walked up to the casket and their inside lay the body of a neighbour I knew very well. I didn't think nothing of it at the time and just dismissed it as a wierd dream. Well about 2 weeks later we got news from this mans family that he had been just killed in a work related accident and were invited to the funeral. I remembered the dream I had instantly and it was really kinda a strange feeling. Maybe it was a huge coincedence but still it was unsettling.
Ticker
This reminded me of an article about the secrets of Houdini, the pertinent part I print below:
There were two main schools of thought on Houdini's escapes. One, pushed by Cannell and others, held that Houdini was a mere contortionist, who could expand his muscles while restraints were being placed on him, then later relax and slip out of his bonds.
The other explanation, which I mention here purely for its entertainment value, was offered by Sir Arthur Conan Doyle, the creator of Sherlock Holmes, who claimed that Houdini was a full-fledged medium, performing his escapes with the help of the spirit world. How the spirit world felt about doing three-a-day vaudeville has not been recorded.
The plain truth, not surprisingly, seems to be that Houdini was merely an extraordinarily accomplished showman, who knew how to milk a few basic techniques of stage magic for all they were worth. Today, professional magicians say that most of Houdini's tricks could be reproduced, but his performances could never be.
The upshot for me is this. If spirits are powerful enough to predict the future, read minds, etc, why do they need to waste time with parlor trick mumbo jumbo? Why should they even care? I think they'd be having a lot more fun taking over people like in "The Puppet Masters", creating chaos and destruction on a mass scale. Or if they were benevolent, pulling the strings to help mankind on a grand scale.
Of course, I have the same problem believing in Angelic direction. ("Hey, the person in that house needs your copy of the Awake that has the article "When Metals Fail Due to Fatigue" (no joke, that was an article!). You better get over there while they're still praying!")
wow. first off, the unknown really interests me, and i've read every post. yea, i'm spooked.
i'd like to share a website with all of you http://www.meta-religion.com
this thread brings to mind, magic, wizards of past, other realms, other dimensions, or maybe untapped energy. maybe our brains have access to other unknown things. maybe we have more evolving to do. there's room for science to explain the unknown. also, i've had dreams that feel like they're out of place, like i was other people or with people i didn't know. i've had dreams of many bad things in the world that you hear on the news all the time. it'd be awesome if all of us were sensitive to whatever psychic energy may reside around here.
hey that's like the force in star wars. some are sensitive to it and some can control it, like the jedi. its a fact that the CIA used psychics to interrogate prisoners during the cold war, and how do you explain the bermuda triangle and even this ouija board. there's so much mystery out there, i'll just stick with my dreaming.
paranormal personal experiences i'd like to share:
i dreamed i was looking for a street named claire, during my search i came across a man in need. a month later i was riding with a friend trying to get to our friends show. we were lost, and we came across a street named claire. this was not the street our friends show was on, so we U-turned it and we found where he was playing. there was a homeless guy at his show.
and then most of my dreams consist of murder, rape, poverty, suffering, and fear.
i had a dream i was woman locked in a house in ruins. there was others in the house but they were unconscious. when the man left the house, i escaped. it felt as if i was running for my life. i remember seeing autumn trees and leaves and crossing a creak. the dream ended when i fell and blacked out at a construction site.
i was a prisoner among many prisoners. we were shabby clothes. we looked like slaves. we even had chains and everything. they forced to watch a play about jesus. he was cherub. a chain was cuffed over my neck and i was yanked back to the cell. i was resisting.
i was at a formal party in a hotel with people i didn't know. we went to room with some women. one of them raped one of the women. one of the guys was found dead in the shower. it was full of blood. cops were right outside the door.
other than that, i've never encountered a spirit.
Ouija™ boards are definitely real (i.e. the boards with numbers and letters on them exist). Ouija™ is a trademark of Hasbro Corporation (the toy company) and literally means "yes [French] yes [German]".
I think the fact that the name is a trademark of a toy manufacturer indicates their veracity.
