What's Your View of Spanking (Children)?

by minimus 83 Replies latest jw friends

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  stevenyc

  
  Hib, don't stop with that scripture. ALL is inspired, so I hope you also follow these practices, AS Written.

  Lev, 20:9 In case there should be any man who calls down evil upon his father and his mother, he should be put to death without fail. It is his father and his mother upon whom he has called down evil. His own blood is upon him

  Deut 21: 18 "In case a man happens to have a son who is stubborn and rebellious, he not listening to the voice of his father or the voice of his mother, and they have corrected him but he will not listen to them, 19 his father and his mother must also take hold of him and bring him out to the older men of his city and to the gate of his place, 20 and they must say to the older men of his city, ‘This son of ours is stubborn and rebellious; he is not listening to our voice, being a glutton and a drunkard.’ 21 Then all the men of his city must pelt him with stones, and he must die.

  Matt 15:4 For example, God said, ‘Honor your father and your mother’; and, ‘Let him that reviles father or mother end up in death.’ <-- this ones from Jesus.

  steve
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  Gill

  Stevenyc - That sure is one NASTY book, that Bible!

  Pity it doesn't take into account the fact that there are a lot of BAD mothers and fathers out there! I wonder what we're supposed to do with them. Let's look at our Bibles at....what....no scripture telling us how to treat parents who mistreat, abuse, brutalize their children. Dear me
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  mrsjones5

  Doesnt sound like the mother had much control over her children nor did it sound like she knew how to keep them busy
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  Gill

  mrsjones5 - As much as I agree with you, with an 18 month old and three year old it's possible she was totally knackered! Perhaps she was alone and depressed, exhausted and God knows what else.

  Perhaps she should have followed the Bibles advice and had her fellow passengers help her to stone them to death for their disrespect!
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  BrendaCloutier

  Cool Brenda! But I suspect that if you had carried out your threat Yuppie Mum would have had you arrested for assault and you would now have a criminal record!

  At least the threats worked..... Otherwise I'd be a jailbird.....;) I did yell loudly on one kick - the stew asked what was wrong and I told her. Unfortunately the flight was full and there was no place to put me. thats when I threatened the mom about the baby, and later about the boy. You should have seen the bruises on my left arm, side, hip, and leg!
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  jaffacake

  I spanked my son occasionally when he was about 3 years old, but never since, he's now 16 (next week). I have never spanked my 11 year old daughter, and never will. I learned from my mistakes.

  It made me feel better, and I told myself it was good for him too. In reality it demonstrated my lack of competence, control, and imagination.

  1. Neither spanking nor stoning to death (although Hibs would claim both are biblical with her woeful misinterpretation of the teaching of scriptures) are acceptable, it is all physical violence;

  2. It doesn't work as well as alternatives, especially in the longer term;
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  Gill

  Sorry, Brenda. I wasn't meaning to belittle an unpleasant experience. Glad you didn't have to carry out your threat though!
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  BrendaCloutier

  I didn't take it as belittling..... Should I have????

  I actually would not have struck those kids. I think I would have hit the mom with her cellphone first.
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  mrsjones5

  
  mrsjones5 - As much as I agree with you, with an 18 month old and three year old it's possible she was totally knackered! Perhaps she was alone and depressed, exhausted and God knows what else.
  

  Perhaps she should have followed the Bibles advice and had her fellow passengers help her to stone them to death for their disrespect!

  
  

  
  uh hm err I do have experience with toddlers seeing that I have 4 kids and the last 2 are under 5 years of age (2 and 4 respectively). And I do know how hard it is to travel with children that young. But there are things that parents can do to reduce their stress level and those who are likely to sit by them.

  http://www.flyingwithkids.com/travel_tip_april_05.htm

  http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8304652/

  http://www.gonomad.com/family/0408/toddler_travel_tips.html

  Some good tips there.
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  BrendaCloutier

  mrsjones5 - As much as I agree with you, with an 18 month old and three year old it's possible she was totally knackered! Perhaps she was alone and depressed, exhausted and God knows what else.

  It was a short hop flight - she was returning home from visiting her parents. She was not the least bit frazzled or I would have taken some pity on her. She was on the planes phone almost the entire time talking to her husband about how first class was full, dinner that night with friends, how much she missed the nanny, and would "Jane and Joe" have to have their kids with them, etc.

  No... she not only didn't know how to care for her kids...she couldn't be bothered by them!