by vitty 29 Replies latest jw friends
I respect your opinion DFED but one point is that David was only repentant when he was FOUND OUT.
He didn't show any signs of stopping his behaviour until he was exposed publicly. Not a great example or even defensible in any human court of law let alone "divine"law.....
TalespinDont you believe that Jehovah is a forgiving God? Actually his word descibes him as a God who is READY to forgive. A mercifull and Gracious God. Is it so far fetched to believe that if David was TRUELY sorry and repentant that Jehovah would forgive him? Do you feel that Jehovah has ever forgiven you for anything youve done in your life time?
Defd, then why is it you don't hear of any other stories in the OT where God is forgiving enough to let an adulterer and a murderer live after the crime is made public? Why only for the king? A blatent double standard if you ask me.
Kwin
But then, that seems to be the way it is in the cong's today (elders can do pretty much what they want if they're "repentant", yet others get hung out to dry), so maybe that's just the way God works. Kwin
Esther. How come she got to be all beautiful & marry whoever she wanted & still be great?!! I had to spend long hours in the field service & still never got there!!!!
Ditto for Rachel. I cannot envision how polygamy is ever moral, let alone one man married to 2 sisters. The entire story of Leah.......it makes me sick. Of course that's because I was told I was like Leah and I better accept it. Bastards.
I have to say I hate the Hebrew God character the most though.
Its a shame the borg doesnt follow Jehovahs example of forgivness, instead you have to "prove" how repentant you are to 3 elders, regardless of the fact that you may have prayed and felt Jehovah had forgiven you. They can go right ahead and DFs you anyway !!!
What was Davids punishment by the way ? Ive also got a real problem that his baby son died, was that Davids punishment???
Defd, then why is it you don't hear of any other stories in the OT where God is forgiving enough to let an adulterer
Kwin there are examples. what about the account of Jerico?
1 Then Joshua the son of Nun sent two men out secretly from Shit´tim as spies, saying: “Go, take a look at the land and Jer´i·cho.” So they went and came to the house of a prostitute woman whose name was Ra´hab, and they took up lodging there.
The account goes on to read that because of her faith in Jehovah she was spared from the destruction of the city and its inhabitants. Also she was an ancestress of Jesus. She was part of the lineage that Jesus came through
1 The book of the history of Jesus Christ, son of David, son of Abraham:
2 Abraham became father to Isaac;
Isaac became father to Jacob;
Jacob became father to Judah and his brothers;
3 Judah became father to Pe´rez and to Ze´rah by Ta´mar;
Pe´rez became father to Hez´ron;
Hez´ron became father to Ram;
4 Ram became father to Am·min´a·dab;
Am·min´a·dab became father to Nah´shon;
Nah´shon became father to Sal´mon;
5 Sal´mon became father to Bo´az by Ra´hab;
Bo´az became father to O´bed by Ruth;
O´bed became father to Jes´se;
6 Jes´se became father to David the king.
David became father to Sol´o·mon by the wife of U·ri´ah;
7 Sol´o·mon became father to Re·ho·bo´am;
Re·ho·bo´am became father to A·bi´jah;
A·bi´jah became father to A´sa;
8 A´sa became father to Je·hosh´a·phat;
Je·hosh´a·phat became father to Je·ho´ram;
Je·ho´ram became father to Uz·zi´ah;
9 Uz·zi´ah became father to Jo´tham;
Jo´tham became father to A´haz;
A´haz became father to Hez·e·ki´ah;
10 Hez·e·ki´ah became father to Ma·nas´seh;
Ma·nas´seh became father to A´mon;
A´mon became father to Jo·si´ah;
11 Jo·si´ah became father to Jec·o·ni´ah and to his brothers at the time of the deportation to Babylon.
12 After the deportation to Babylon Jec·o·ni´ah became father to She·al´ti·el;
She·al´ti·el became father to Ze·rub´ba·bel;
13 Ze·rub´ba·bel became father to A·bi´ud;
A·bi´ud became father to E·li´a·kim;
E·li´a·kim became father to A´zor;
14 A´zor became father to Za´dok;
Za´dok became father to A´chim;
A´chim became father to E·li´ud;
15 E·li´ud became father to El·e·a´zar;
El·e·a´zar became father to Mat´than;
Mat´than became father to Jacob;
16 Jacob became father to Joseph the husband of Mary, of whom Jesus was born, who is called Christ.
Was she not forgiving by Jehovah? I think so.
My most favorite is Jesus. If all those stories are real, I don't believe that he and God are one in the same. Jesus was a good guy who didn't judge.
My least favorite would be God because he's depicted as an evil, cold-hearted hypocrite who kills to strike fear into the hearts of his followers.
What was Davids punishment by the way ?
Well...even though not liking the story I thought that the punishment was that his male children were raping their sister and killing each other. I don't think it's advert and know it's not taught that way among the JWs....but in my own reading (long after leaving) that's the way I took it.
Still waiting for a comment DFED...........
I detest any of the men who practiced polygamy or were misogynists.
