I am not JW but i have a q uestion for you guys and gals (page 3)

Honesty

All they know is fear. That's how they're kept under control. Kwin

She fears the Watchtower more than she fears God because in her mind the Watchtower is God's voice.

I'm proud to look at my flag, i'm proud of many things, and i have a enough pride to say this to you

i don't give a flying rats ass what you think alright, baseically what you said was that it was only puppy love, a fling, and i don't know what i'm doing. Guess what there is such thing as true love. And i've found it, but to my dissapointment, it can never happen. Are you happy. I'm probley gonna be scred up for life, because i can't hold the woman of my dreams.......it's because of ur cult that i may never experience a awsome feeling like this again.....
i hope me and you cross paths some day, so i can give you what you deserve, don't try writeing back things to make me sound like i don't know what i'm saying because this is the last time i'm veiwing this website, and to the other guys...thnx for all ur help,

later,

Hellrider

I saw that happen once, actually. A perfectly normal, healthy guy, fell in love with a girl in our congregation. There was absolutely nooo activity from the neck up on that girl (the plane was airborne, but there waas noone at the wheel, so to speak), but she sure was pretty. And the guy eventually turned into the most brainwashed, hardcore JW I ever saw.

Ah, deceitful lust. Remember, you`re young, and theres a whole ocean of fish out there. Tell her: Stay away, Jezabel, Succubus, go back to the hell you came from.

DanTheMan

Terry, tonight you were working on "Material adapted to suit audience".

We're going to give you a W on this...

jwfacts

Just to throw some fuel on the fire...
It can work, i have a number of friends that married non-JW's and been happily married for years. It pissed the elders off no end, who repeatedly gave talks that even though the mixed marriages may look happy, the JW was dissobedient to God and so will reap what they sow.
You have to realise LostSouls that your chances are low, and even if you could catch her heart it will be difficult for both of you.
If you could reason with her on the religion and put doubts in her mind it would be good if she could break free from the cult before starting a relationship.
On the other hand, there is truth in the saying that there are many fish in the sea. You will meet other girls that may be even more suitable for you, and without all the unneccesary religious baggage.

ballistic

Me thinks Terry is very clever and extemely logical (and I accept everything he says) but he may miss the mystery of life, love and romance and may die feeling sad if he's not careful.

jgnat

OK, I am a non-JW who married a JW out of love. I am going to assume you can't be dissuaded from your goal to capture this girl. I suggest you have no idea what kind of obstacles are in your way. This beautiful girl does. That is why she tried to warn you off.

So, let's assume we can't warn you off. Here's what you have to look forward to.

1. Get yourself educated about the religion, and fast. But don't be openly critical to your girlfriend. Being openly critical of the Watchtower Society is the kiss of death.

2. Prepare to spend from three to five years of intensive, intelligent effort to wean her from the society. If she be so willing. She may eventually choose the society over you. In fact, I think she already has.

3. Don't think that introducing yourself to the family to show what a fine, upstanding young man will help. ANYONE not a Jehovah's Witness is considered bad assocation. They may be nice to your face, but notice how fast they hustle you out the door. Or, if they think they can't warn you off, how fast they recommend a book study. When you see a JW smile, think of a shark.

I DO NOT RECOMMEND becoming a Jehovah's Witness to get the girl. You will be selling your soul and handing your balls in a little paper bag to the elders. If you don't believe me, read all of Buck's posts. He decided to convert for his girlfriend, and he is miserable.

http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/member/16001/topics/default.ashx

Finally, if you can't be dissuaded, please do come back for advice and support. You'll need it.

Generic Man

Hi Lostsoul,

Welcome to the board. I'd like to say that I completely sympathise with your situation, but honestly, I do suspect that this is a temporary crush. Maybe you wait awhile and then see how you still feel about the matter. However, if you still feel like pursuing her, then you've got a challenge. Probably the best approach her and tell her how you feel about her. It makes no difference how you feelings about her if she is unaware of them. You should also be upfront about how you feel about her religion. Whatever you choose to do, good luck and feel free to post some more.

Darth Yhwh

“Me thinks Terry is very clever and extemely logical (and I accept everything he says) but he may miss the mystery of life, love and romance and may die feeling sad if he's not careful.”

With reasoning like this it’s not hard for me to believe that you were in a controlling cult. Terry be careful, your creating a following here that may not be easily dissolved.

“1. Get yourself educated about the religion, and fast. But don't be openly critical to your girlfriend . Being openly critical of the Watchtower Society is the kiss of death.

2. Prepare to spend from three to five years of intensive, intelligent effort to wean her from the society. If she be so willing. She may eventually choose the society over you. In fact, I think she already has.

3. Don't think that introducing yourself to the family to show what a fine, upstanding young man will help. ANYONE not a Jehovah's Witness is considered bad assocation . They may be nice to your face, but notice how fast they hustle you out the door. Or, if they think they can't warn you off, how fast they recommend a book study. When you see a JW smile, think of a shark.

I DO NOT RECOMMEND becoming a Jehovah's Witness to get the girl. You will be selling your soul and handing your balls in a little paper bag to the elders. If you don't believe me, read all of Buck's posts. He decided to convert for his girlfriend, and he is miserable.”

For once I agree with jgnat. She gives some good advice with this post. Read it, read it over again, read it over again, and make sure you under stand it. Just to emphasize, I’ve highlighted what I feel are some of the more important issues involved.

Dude, listen. If you really like this girl then I say go for it. It’s better to have loved and lost than never to have loved at all. If this girl feels anything for you at all then maybe you could be the catalyst that will free her from her chains. Make no mistake, this will not be easy. But look at the bright side, that which does not kill you will only make you stronger.

Joel Wideman

Welcome to the board, LostSouls.
This doesn't have anything to do with my reasons for leaving, so I didn't mention it there.
I remember the first time I was in love. There was a girl at my KH that made me feel the way you describe. But there were things going on with her I didn't understand, and some of these I still don't, so I won't bring them up. Someone decided we were spending too much time together. She was forced to call me on the phone and tell me, through tears, that she didn't love me. She stopped talking to me, even though she said we'd still be friends.
Eventually she got baptised. And then left.
I haven't seen her since. I still have many unanswered questions. I still remember her face and, despite the pain, don't want to forget.
The good news is that I fell in love again. While I can't say I've moved on, I haven't been carrying a torch either. I'm married to a wonderful woman who I've grown too accustomed to having around to replace, and I know she feels the same way about me.
Love is not mystical. It is not exclusive. It is a combination of admiration, attraction, compatibility, and chemistry as well as emotion. Love can grow, and love can wither. Love is not a fantasy, it is reality.
If you truly love her, do so unconditionally. Recognize that she cannot do the same. Forgive her for this. And always remember, there will be others.

I am not JW but i have a q uestion for you guys and gals

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