Recap time:
defd: I will answer to the best of my ability but I WILL NOT go back and forth and argue.
Fair enough. Here are four of the teachings I cannot find support for in the Scripture. If someone publicly denies the validity of any one of these foundational doctrines or publicly affirms a contrary belief to any one of these, they risk expulsion from among Jehovah's Witnesses. I have source material readily available to show you, in case you question whether any of these are actually JW dogma.
(1) the Faithful and Discreet Slave is a class of people,
(2) that the holy spirit directs organizations, in addition to individuals,
(3) that the Faithful and Discreet Slave is responsible for revealing "new light" (as opposed to "food at the proper time") to anyone, and finally
(4) that Jehovah deals with individual other sheep differently than the little flock.
Can you establish these doctrines Scripturally without uninspired human interpretation?
The only thing saving me from expulsion so far is that I have not publicly denied the validity or publicly affirmed a belief to the contrary. But, in light of the point in What Does the Bible Really Teach? I don't feel bad about asying that if there is no support for these teachings in the Bible, then they are false.
THEN:
defd: Before we begin let me say that my shift at work is almost up so I wont be able to get into it to much but can pick it back up 2marrow, honestly.
THIS MORNING (2marrow):
I see you've made lot's of posts this morning. I want to trust you, honestly. Do you have an answer for me? Do you have Scriptures?
LASTLY:
defd: vitty old soul is NOT looking for answers.
Oh, really? I think the forum already knows otherwise. I have raised these same points on numerous occasions and have never received an answer. IF there is n answer, I want it. So far, no one has supplied one.
My earliest attempt, prior to what you call Apostasy:
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/9/84617/1.ashx
I raised them several times in discussion threads, I don't know all of them. Usually I just raised them in the form of redirecting back to the "A Friend In Need" thread.
Next Attempt:
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/12/98798/1.ashx
And lastly, you. Here. In this thread.
But, in your case, I even went so far as to agree to your terms. My statement that these teachings have no Scriptural support stands until shown to be untrue. The proof of untruth, in this case, can only be Scriptural support. If you show it, that will be the end of it, you made perfectly clear you don't want to argue about your proof and I accepted those terms.
What is it, defd? What is the real problem? Did you find out there is no Scriptural proof for these doctrines of your faith? Do you find yourself forced to "save face" somehow, even if it is by maligning a poster with a long track record of honesty?
Hm. We'll see. But I think your lack of support is showing. If you have lost my respect it is only to the degree that your promises to me are not being fulfilled. That is how the Organization lost my respect, too.
OldSoul
