Thoughts on forgivness...Is there a process?

by Sparkplug 80 Replies latest social relationships

  • LittleToe
    LittleToe

    Does forgiveness involve positive action (eg. condescension) or does it just involve "letting go"?

    I can keep feces in by an act of will, but most of the day I don't need to clench my butt to keep clean and dry - it just happens. Butt clenching bad, relaxing good

  • Robdar
    Robdar
    Does forgiveness involve positive action (eg. condescension) or does it just involve "letting go"?

    I don't know. You tell me.

    I can keep feces in by an act of will, but most of the day I don't need to clench my butt to keep clean and dry - it just happens. Butt clenching bad, relaxing good

    Aha! I always knew that you had excellent bowel control. Now, if you could only help potty train the rest of the world.

  • LittleToe
    LittleToe

    James highlighted the main thrust of my opinion on the subject. Like most things, if you relax it's a lot more comfortable

  • LittleToe
    LittleToe

    Just realised that could be taken a number of ways...

  • Robdar
    Robdar
    James highlighted the main thrust of my opinion on the subject. Like most things, if you relax it's a lot more comfortable

    But that is only if I want to. What if I don't want to or see a need for it? Things like worrying about forgiveness or who may have slighted me doesn't get much accomplished in the physical world. Most people try to be good anyway and so, many times, things that people get upset with each other over are mere misunderstandings or miscommunications. Why make a judgment call and decide that the other person needs forgiveness? Why let them bother me/you to begin with?

    For the others, who really do harm to you, all I can say is "the dogs bark but the caravan moveth on". I prefer to leave them to whatever it is that's eating them. I do not have a desire to analyze them or judge them worthy of my forgiveness or non forgiveness. What do I care if they understand me or not? Their approval is not vital to my well-being. Nor is mine to their's.

    Now, granted. I have only recently come to this decision. I used to be the first one to make peace and offer forgiveness. Lately, I just don't see the need to worry about it all.

    Just realised that could be taken a number of ways...

    Uh-huh. It sure can. And I did too.

  • LittleToe
    LittleToe
    Things like worrying about forgiveness or who may have slighted me doesn't get much accomplished in the physical world.

    Isn't that the point of just relaxing and letting it slide?

    "Offering" peace is an activity that I can rarely expend energy on. Being in a "peaceful" state that requires no such activity, may be another story, though.

    Of course that doesn't mean that some people never gripe my ass
    In those situations I hold onto it just long enough to reach the pan...

  • Robdar
    Robdar
    Things like worrying about forgiveness or who may have slighted me doesn't get much accomplished in the physical world.

    Isn't that the point of just relaxing and letting it slide?

    Isn't that what I'm doing by not worrying about it? People are people. We are all doing our best. Why complicate it to the point of emotion? Forgiveness is an emotional thing. Why not just let it be?

    "Offering" peace is an activity that I can rarely expend energy on. Being in a "peaceful" state that requires no such activity, may be another story, though.

    Of course that doesn't mean that some people never gripe my ass

    In those situations I hold onto it just long enough to reach the pan...

    Don't forget to check for t/p before you let it rip!

  • LittleToe
    LittleToe
    Isn't that what I'm doing by not worrying about it?

    Probably

    How do we balance "empathy" with self-defense", though?

  • Robdar
    Robdar

    Probably

    How do we balance "empathy" with self-defense", though?

    How do we not?

    Robyn

    "The Way that can be explained, is not the true Way" Tao Te Ching

  • LittleToe
    LittleToe

    Well, clenching our ass probably isn't a good method of doing it, unless we're happy to be perpetually constipated

    LT, of the "always got a spare roll" class

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