It would have been fun to have someone throw water on you and you start screaming "Ahhhhhhhhhhh!!! It BURNS! It BURNS! Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!"
rofl...
today both of my youngest boys' classrooms were to have their valentine's party.
i had to rush this morning to walmart and pick up valentines for my youngest son.
then i had quickly to put my boy's name on 24 valentines which i did when my boy was eating breakfast in the school cafeteria.
It would have been fun to have someone throw water on you and you start screaming "Ahhhhhhhhhhh!!! It BURNS! It BURNS! Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!"
rofl...
thanks for your letter and the thoughts contained.
others had commented on the latest shift of the interpretation of this generation.
as you recognize this allows for an unending extension of time and likely stems from an awareness of the approach of the year 2014 marking 100 years since the date of 1914.. .
Rays thought processes are just so simple and pure arent they? Gotta love the guy. He SAVED ME, saved my kids...saved my life. How do you repay that? By living the life that was given back to you and helping others get free too.
Love you and Cindy Ray...would you mind staying around forever? Or at least until the WTS comes down on itself like the Trade Towers?
borg message incoming.
on screen.. borg: blizzard is irrelevant.
even though this is a judicial matter, it's really a shepherding call.
Chris...oh honey. You are in major pain. And I am going to recommend you talk to a professional about it ok? But having said that, please step back from your life for a minute and look at it. Reeeeallly look at it. It isnt you that is causing the pain. It isnt HER that is causing the pain...its the cult. Without their horrible influence on both of you, she wouldnt be having to do this, wouldnt feel INCLINED to do this to you. What does she think she is gaining?
Taking your life does nothing but let them win. You know they will only hold you in derision and ridicule you as spiritually weak and a whole list of other defaming things because you refused to play their game by their rules. If the only reason your wife stays with you is because you continue this facade of being a JW to keep HER around, then you will eventually be lost not only to her but yourself and will have gained nothing.
I think you need to cut that cult tie before it strangles you...before the lies you have to tell to survive kill you. If they wont DA you then write a letter and do it and get it over with. Dont wait for what amounts to "suicide by police" to release yourself of this bondage. The love of your life is not trying to save you...she is holding the knife to your neck and frankly, IMHO...that aint love thats control. If she ceases to love you after you are DAd then your relationship with her was a sham to begin with and was only conditional on you being a good little JW.
I could not live with that albatross on my back. That is not living, and living is the best revenge.
several weeks ago, a witness poster said that the rank and file at his cong were told by elders not to ask questions.
i may have misunderstood what the poster was saying.
has anyone on the forum heard anything like this?
I was told by an elder that my questions were "borderline apostate Sister" and it was suggested that I stop asking them...through smiles of course. I looked up in the literature why we always encourage others to "be like the Bereans" and test everything that was told to them against the scriptures to see if it was true. And they wrote that Bereans WERENT CHRISTIANS YET and so were still allowed to ask. But ONCE YOU ARE A JW you should have moved away from asking ANY questions or TESTING anything you read or heard and if you do research ON the literature then you are "looking for error" and therefore are doubting Jehovah, the Slave, The Society, the whole organization and you are a spiritual endangerment and an apostate.
Srsly??
last night, during the congregation bible study, the conductor (overseer?
) used this as a platform to say that the movie avatar is of satan and no christians should see it.. .
he said that he googled the (original) meaning of the word avatar and it was of hindu religious origin.
When does this crap ever end? You know someone started that crap about the word "Avatar" and it spread like wildfire around the JW community, most of the story tellers taking the credit themselves for having discovered this spiritual salvation before its too late for the brothers and sisters! Its a Smurf story. Its a BEAUTIFUL movie...saw it twice. Was just taken in by the beauty of it. Must see it in 3D before Alice In Wonderland comes to the Imax (OH SHIT!!! ALICE IN WONDERLAND IS COMING!!! RUNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN PROTECT THE CHILDREN!! TALKING RABBITS WHO TELL TIME!!! FLOATING CAT FACES! EVIL CARD QUEENS WHO WANT BEHEAD PEOPLE LIKE WHAT HAPPENED TO JOHN THE BAPTIST! RUNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN!!!!!!)
i have soooo had it with these assholes...sooooo had it!!
my daughter who is 19 is pre-engaged to a wonderful 20 year old guy who treats her like a princess.
he lives with us to both help me with the rent and for them to save some money for their future.
These are not strangers Purps...this is his step granddaughter...someone he knows from birth and said he loves and yet he doesnt trust her? What possible reason could he have for doing this to her? Is he "saving" her from what is almost CERTAIN sexual contact? Are there JWs watching his house that know there are (gasp) unmarried people under the same roof who might sneak out of their rooms and fornicate on the washing machine? There no reason on the planet why he is doing this except because he is a control freak. And to show his EXJW brow beaten wife HE is in charge of all things.
i have soooo had it with these assholes...sooooo had it!!
my daughter who is 19 is pre-engaged to a wonderful 20 year old guy who treats her like a princess.
he lives with us to both help me with the rent and for them to save some money for their future.
I have soooo had it with these assholes...sooooo HAD IT!! My daughter who is 19 is pre-engaged to a wonderful 20 year old guy who treats her like a princess. He lives with us to both help me with the rent and for them to save some money for their future. They both work and go to school. Even though they share a room and a bed, they are both still virgins and even though no one believes that...I do. Its what they both want. It angers her that no one believes them. She is the sweetest lady on the planet. Never was a JW. I made sure of that.
She wanted to take her fiance up to where we used to live to show him her old home and for our relatives to get to know him better, over their spring break. She was wanting to stay with her grandmother, my EXJW mother in law. I warned her that I didnt think she would be allowed to do that because of who my mother in law is married to...a sickeningly self righteous holier than thou JW elder.
Sure enough...said elder called and ...coward that he is....left a message on my daughters cell phone while she was at work and said that he couldnt have that "situation" at his home and that he was "uncomfortable" having them both under his roof! He said "one or the other of you can stay here but not both of you."
What the FUCK??? She isnt even his BLOOD!! And he wont allow the two of them, even in SEPARATE ROOMS to stay there??? She is soooo upset and sooo hurt. She doesnt want to see him AT ALL now like EVER again and she is mortified that her family is treating them both like they were horrible sinning DIRTY people not welcome in her own grandmothers home! My mother in law is helpless to do anything about this. She couldnt even have so much as one present or a tree or a wreath at Christmas...and even though today is her youngest daughters 40th birthday..no party was allowed.
And as sure as I am sitting here typing this...this asshole is on the computer sending a message to my exhusband, this childs JW dad, and the other JWs in the family GLOATING about how he stood up for Jehovahs Christian Principles by denying this fornicating couple access to his "clean" house. I want to throw up...I realllllly do. If I ever see this son of a bitch again, I will knock his fucking teeth out for doing this to them.
*** w90 5/15 pp.
11-12 fear jehovah, the hearer of prayer ***.
a restricted privilege.
Nice isnt it? How they can just put God into a box, slap a sticker on it that says MINE MINE MINE!! And the rest of us got nothin. Gosh why didnt I think of that? Owning God all to myself? So then all I would have to do is ask to win the lottery and God, having no other prayers to answer but mine, because I own Him...would say "Sure! How much?"
not to "hijack" dogpatch's recent thread, but the experience he relayed in the above topic struck a nerve and i was curious for more input.. http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/188715/1/my-aunts-funeral-at-the-kingdom-hall.
if there is ever a time when a shred of human dignity and compassion is deserved, it is at a funeral.. i am appalled by the way disfellowshipped individuals are treated, but especially at witness funerals.. the flesh and blood relatives have the right to be there if they choose.
if you are a witness and you are offended by a disfellowshipped person attending, dont let the door hit you in the @$$ on the way out.
Parakeet hugs sweetheart. Im so sorry to hear about your loss...and on TOP of that the ignoramuses that will be going to his funeral and furthering your pain. I saw this crap first hand as well. As I have stated before, a JW died and his exjw widow stood up at the funeral home services after a Brother gave the infomercial about how much more superior JWs are....and as she stood to introduce the mans DAUGHTER who was going to read a poem she wrote for her Daddy...all the JWs in the place stood UP and walked OUT and went out in the hall and outside the windows laughing and talking and patting each other on the back for what they had just done.
Assholes every last one of them.
dozy brought up a good point a few months back about how the wt uses third party terminology to obscure their real motives.
i thought it was a good idea to revisit this wt writing technique.. (http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/184897).
look at the nov 15th 2009 wt, "treasure your place in the congregation" and compare what happens when we replace the third party terminology (words in bold type) with first party words.
That whole use of the language talks DOWN to people. Its meant to be demeaning and making them remember they are NOTHING and that the Mother Ship controls everything that they do, that they think, that their decisions are all made for them and that anyone who DARES to question or defy would be included in that dreaded word "some" post haste.
No wonder we were all so depressed. You spend your whole life being put down by someone you put your trust in...you believe you are worthless.