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  Meeting Today

  by lambsbottom in

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  2. friends

  me and the spouse looked over the wt and decided it wouldn't be in our best spiritual interest to stay for the wt (we usually don't anymore).. so, took the kids to the public talk (was actually great, nice brother), took them outside for a snack and snuggled/played...and then left (an hour early).. .

  felt great!

  gotta do what you know is best for you spiritually!

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  umbertoecho

  Bit of bad grammar and spelling there. Sorry, got a bit upset
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  Meeting Today

  by lambsbottom in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  me and the spouse looked over the wt and decided it wouldn't be in our best spiritual interest to stay for the wt (we usually don't anymore).. so, took the kids to the public talk (was actually great, nice brother), took them outside for a snack and snuggled/played...and then left (an hour early).. .

  felt great!

  gotta do what you know is best for you spiritually!

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  Loved the video. I mirrored so much of the awful atmosphere of these glassy eyed people who give the talks; and that of those who have to listen to these intelligence attacking assualts..............suffer. And it is because of their sincerity that they put up with it, even when these poor people "know" they are being fed a pile of B())(*it. But they really do love God and.........

  Because they have no-where else to go...................
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  Meeting Today

  by lambsbottom in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  me and the spouse looked over the wt and decided it wouldn't be in our best spiritual interest to stay for the wt (we usually don't anymore).. so, took the kids to the public talk (was actually great, nice brother), took them outside for a snack and snuggled/played...and then left (an hour early).. .

  felt great!

  gotta do what you know is best for you spiritually!

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  I went to the meeting too!

  There was a badly drawn "Ark" on a white board beside the speaker as he told us to be more obendient, not to aim for wisdom, and to be more generous.
  I had trouble understanding what the Ark drawing had to do with it all. All I could surmise, was that the Ark was some sort of sublimation to our senses by word pictures instead of actual words. He only referenced his rotten drawing once, and that was to remind us of the obedience of Noah at the time of the end, at that time, and how Noah never questioned God's request. That was it................!!!!!!

  The elders wife who took me along, was clearly embarrassed at the inadequacy of this chaps talk, and it's message of "obedience", she was embarrassed enough to raise the topic first. Not me. She was able to escape the WT bit as she just had to come up to my place and explain that she found some of the historical stuff mentioned, was indeed, not accurate, and was open to speculation.
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  Purged songs of the Watchtower

  by LogCon in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  my memory of singing the kingdom songs go back to when i was a child in the 1950's.

  they still hold a place in my memory and my heart.

  how can something that is so much a part of your childhood not stay embedded in your heart.?.

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  Shula-mite maiden. Is one of the songs purged. The tune is the same minus the original wording as the song celebrated the "womanly" form.
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  Should I meet with the elders?

  by winnie12 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  so i posted my story somewhere on this board but long story short i have been expressing my doubts to my mom who is a jw.

  i have been fading since december 2013 and went to a sunday meeting for the first time maybe two weeks ago.

  i went only because i wanted to use the library that my hall has which had books published by the society from the early 1900's.

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  Don't meet with them. If you end up meeting with them, cry all the time and don't answer ANY questions.
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  the new jw bible and the verses they removed

  by Crazyguy in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i noticed they removed several important ones like mark 16:9-20 acts 8:37 and romans 16:24, so how does one find out if there is any relevance to them removing these verses and others.

  they of course say these verses were not found in the oldest manuscripts so how can we see if they are correct or lying??

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  Romans 16:24 was not in the 1971 bible either, this one was updated from 1961 and 1970 therefore in this new version, they must have reverted back to my older version. I like to have a few different bibles on hand for such occassions like this. When I showed this old/new deletion to my sister she was noneplussed. She likes to toss out the old light as soon as the new light comes to hand,which turns out to be the old light.
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  The Biggest Fear From The Watchtower Organization Is ???

  by minimus in

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  2. friends

  i think the organization is worried most about how jws will stay loyal to their families even as it rejects the admonition of the gb and elders..

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  Love the animation Outlaw, they crack me up and were one of my reasons for joining in the first place. I do believe humor is unofficially banned in the Kingdom Halls and therefore in the Kingdom of Heaven according to the GB. My humor has alway been the cause of so much censure.
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  talked to wt. conductor about sundays study

  by nowwhat? in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i said i was concerned that they painted hezekiah as this champion of righteousness and how the article omitted when he paid tribute to assaria by looting the temple when he got scared.

  and apparently he had an alliance with egypt, a pagan nation.

  he said i was getting boged down with other references and missing the point.

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  Heartofaboy. ..........you showed quite a bit of courage there. I have two JW ladies trying to shepherd me at the moment. They seem to be quite nice, but they have that sort of .........blank look.......that frightens me so. I have said I would study the bible with them, but they are not willing to do this on it's own merit. They are so needy of their literature, that they can hardly get their thoughts together in a reasoning manner. They are stilted and unsure without their mags and books. They are starting to dislike me as well, when all I asked was that they share the bible with me. My daughter and husband have both died and I needed to search for some answers. I did not want a schedule of religious orders and credes.

  Credit to you for standing up for yourself.
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  talked to wt. conductor about sundays study

  by nowwhat? in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i said i was concerned that they painted hezekiah as this champion of righteousness and how the article omitted when he paid tribute to assaria by looting the temple when he got scared.

  and apparently he had an alliance with egypt, a pagan nation.

  he said i was getting boged down with other references and missing the point.

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  umbertoecho

  Got a bit hot headed there. I dislike people crushing each other.
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  talked to wt. conductor about sundays study

  by nowwhat? in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i said i was concerned that they painted hezekiah as this champion of righteousness and how the article omitted when he paid tribute to assaria by looting the temple when he got scared.

  and apparently he had an alliance with egypt, a pagan nation.

  he said i was getting boged down with other references and missing the point.

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  umbertoecho

  How bloody wicked is that. I was told off for thinking too much. Don't you ever stop thinking, reading and reasoning. These people nearly crushed the life out of me and led me to the edge. They were illiterate and hated my uni education as they thought I might be Satanized. They wanted me Sanitized.