The brothers who go around for the liaison committee here also made millions out of this setup. It was in our news paper here in Perth. Two weekend articles that made me very angry at the way they could influence, not just other JWs, but the general public as well.
umbertoecho
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Jehovah's Witnesses recover best from surgery, despite refusing blood.
by nicolaou inthat's' the headline of an article in the sydney morning herald.
my jw family are sharing it with glee on facebook right now.
here's the link; .
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Sexual abuse Royal Commission starts in Perth today.
by umbertoecho init is sad to see the terrible abuse that has come out of religious socities and how well they have covered things up...so sad infact that i felt compelled to make an application to this commission this morning asking why the wtbts has mangaged to stay out of the news.
i know this is a controversial subject but my story is just one of many stories.....i was a child raised in this religion, i never felt like a good person and was told that i was crazy by my father and the rest of my family, more times than i can recall.
the fact is, i wasn't crazy.
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umbertoecho
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I suppose this is a problem of the world and not indigent to a religious community. Still. I seemed worse to me as I tried to understand the contradictions that I lived. I have no wish to be a "downer" on this site. There are many times that I have laughed my head off at some of the comments. However, I wonder if god can be with people who hurt others, not just me, but others. Thank you anyway for your support. This commission was inevitable and is global is it not?
I think that there must be a better future for all the exposure that is occurring. I also belive there is a God. Just a bad day happened today with the onset of this commission.
I don't think the entire world is as evil as people would paint it. There are those balanced and good souls trying to unravel this awful mess that we have created.
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Sexual abuse Royal Commission starts in Perth today.
by umbertoecho init is sad to see the terrible abuse that has come out of religious socities and how well they have covered things up...so sad infact that i felt compelled to make an application to this commission this morning asking why the wtbts has mangaged to stay out of the news.
i know this is a controversial subject but my story is just one of many stories.....i was a child raised in this religion, i never felt like a good person and was told that i was crazy by my father and the rest of my family, more times than i can recall.
the fact is, i wasn't crazy.
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umbertoecho
It is sad to see the terrible abuse that has come out of religious socities and how well they have covered things up...So sad infact that I felt compelled to make an application to this commission this morning asking why the WTBTS has mangaged to stay out of the news.
I know this is a controversial subject but my story is just one of many stories.....I was a child raised in this religion, I never felt like a good person and was told that I was crazy by my father and the rest of my family, more times than I can recall. The fact is, I wasn't crazy. I was a child who would be driven to long meetings that were then held in a rented hall, my father would go out for a cigarette between breaks ( or if he couldn't wait he would just go out anyway) So now you can guess my age and it don't care. The problem was the sexual abuse that I endured between these meetings and shortly after these meetins. They would be followed up with the usual crazy making statements about how I WAS EVIL. I was nine years old....just a little girl. I had to try to protect myself so I would try to be as ugly as I could by scratching my face and pulling my hair out. I was an angry frightened little girl who wanted to please God.
My father never let up on me and I left home at 14 years of age or there abouts. I lived with a bit of peace for some time with a friend, but I had to go home in the end and it started again. By then I would fight for my dignity, my right to my body, my right to have some love and peace. I never, ever found it. The last time my father abused me sexually was incredibly public. I had married to get away from him and whilst my husband was getting a drink for us at a bar in a jazz club, my father tried to ............how can I say this? He grabbed me and said it ........."was okay, and just let myself go..." He told me I could not call him "father". I did not understand why he did this, and as he groped me (for the last time) I realised it was some tragic means to hide his identity.
I was horrified at him, I pushed him away and told him I had just lost a baby and needed love and support.............so on and so forth....My husband came back from the bar...(He was not a JW) and I asked him to take me away immediately...He did, but he was confused about my sudden panic. I told my mother about the secret life imposed upon me throughout my life and I believe that she "believed" me in the end. But it was too late. I was a problem child with a history of bad behavior and I had always been inclined to have an imagination....
That was my life...trying to please a God who seemed absent, trying to get away from a father who had a great personaltiy and could play great jazz. He eventually gave up the religious life, but when he died he was given a witness type funeral i.e. and elder decided my father was so great that he deserved it even at a private event. I wrote my father a letter, a certified letter that gave me the right to say what needed to be said to him quiet a few months before he died, and he showed it to the rest of my family, my sisters, my brother, my brother inlaw. They were religiously outraged at my Satanic attack on my father!!! They were certain that I was quite out of my mind and making it all up.
They threatened me with legal action but I said that I had told the complete truth and would never sway from it. I told them that my last experience had been as a nineteen year old woman grieving over the loss of her baby. I said that I had chosen to tell of what was absolutely concrete, that I had chosen the ages that were very very clear and above some "childhood memories" and this was my only way to claw out of the despair of misunderstanding. They said I was crazy because it did not happen to them.
The only joy I ever gained was at his funeral....I grabbed a pile of the hardest bits of pebble and rock and threw it hard on his coffin......
I have always carried this matter deep within. I have had to put up with an elder who tried to teach me by example...ie. He would try to show me how a man shoud kiss a woman....his wife in this instance...I could not refuse this bible study as he was what would be called an "elder" or what ever you call them. Then there would be these painfull joureys in this car on the way home as he plied me with questions about my personal feelings about .......boys. His name I will never forget Ray Brambles. He ended up getting a warning in the end, I have often wondered how far he went in hurting some other child of god in his personal agenda within religiously safe boundaries.....I hated him and my father. I wanted them dead. I felt wicked for thinking this....My father is dead and I still feel angry. Angrier than I realised as I awoke today to the truth of the damage done.
I can't hold this in. I feel like a threat to myself and my memories are terribe as I have striven for outward composure through my life. I have accepted rejection on a religious basis, and realise that this is just a way to shut people like me......up.
Sincerely readers.
Juliette.
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The Battle of Armageddon LOL.
by transhuman68 ini was looking through a watchtower publication that i bought recently, and found this quote about children & armageddon:.
our theme "rearing children in divine favor" does not refer to the rearing of the children of armageddon survivors in that new world when all surrounding conditions and all forces in operation will be toward helping those who live to do righteousness.
no; but it refers to rearing children who are born now before the battle of armageddon.
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umbertoecho
I prefere Absynth absinthe, absinth, the green fairy drink....cant't spell at the moment "wormwood" made green and sugary and 75% proof
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US Official Predicts End Of World Power Status
by metatron inhttp://blogs.wsj.com/chinarealtime/2014/03/28/americans-must-adjust-to-a-world-dominated-by-china-feds-bullard-says/.
an alliance could emerge that suddenly upsets the balance of power , making anglo-america number 2. already, the brics nations seem to be moving towards a loose alliance on many issues.
either way, things are moving in china's direction.
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I have to agree with "fulltimestudent"
Living where I live and having worked in the mining industry, watching China mine the life out of the ore industry and cart it away at very, very low prices.
They are very savvy, own more land in this country than we would like to admit. This includes huge amounts of farming and cattle land.
Half of the large business buildings are owned by them and .......I could go on. My daughters partner is over there right now, and he said to me the other day that all is very thorough and organized. Actually to quote him (he is not religious) ..." they definitely have a one hundred year plan... All the infrastructure is in place....." " The roads and transport systems are organized and clean, and the average person lives really well...."
This was his observation and it was a casual one. He is one of the most casual understated Australians I currently know.
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My JW sister left JW husband
by umbertoecho inafter years of looking down on me for not being "in the truth", being told (more or less) that my daughter died because i did not have the "truth" and therefore god's approval.
my sister has, after forty years of marriage and fifty years of being in the truth....left her husband and her dis-fellowshipped son and gone to live with our other sister (who by the way is disassociated).
i am amazed at this turn of events, as i have always been led to believe that they were a fine example of how complete and spiritually protected they were as a family for being in the jw religion.
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After years of looking down on me for not being "in the truth", being told (more or less) that my daughter died because I did not have the "truth" and therefore God's approval. My sister has, after forty years of marriage and fifty years of being in the truth....left her husband and her dis-fellowshipped son and gone to live with our other sister (who by the way is disassociated)
I am amazed at this turn of events, as I have always been led to believe that they were a fine example of how complete and spiritually protected they were as a family for being in the JW religion. Now I find that her son has been on drugs for over a decade and her husband is hooked to the internet when ever he is not at work or going "out on the work". All those damned years that I have been made to feel "bad" and "faithless" have been a scam upon my sense of self as a fairly good hearted person with a sense of humour and a love of art. So now the congregation will be in a sort of uproar, as they have always been seen to be the kind of JWs in good standing, zealously condemning the world, education, counseling, people in other religions............on and on it goes. Her world has fallen apart as she realises that her religion has not saved her son or changed the basic problems within her marriage. However, for the sake of appearances they have kept up this facade for decades.........only to end up looking like fools as far as I am concerned. I recall her attacking me vigorously for encouraging her to send her son to a rehab in order for competant people to help him out. His being disfellowshipped for smoking was the beginning of a down ward spiral and he never managed to get over the horror of being ignored at every meeting he went to. Now. As of yesterday, after finally discovering how bad his health is and how dangerously close he is to dying, upon consultation with a rehab nurse (they had to in the end) She has walked out of the situation. She said to me on the phone.."The only joy in my life, is in serving Jehovah and being close to His organization..." I kid you not! She actually said this to me. I think she is mentally ill, I really do. And I blame her self righteousness and her gory desire for armaggedon, her blindness to the GB and so many other mad factors in her cultish nature for this sad out come. I am really really angry at her and to evilly honest. There is a part of me that wants to poke a finger at her and say.........."...how truly blessed you must feel within this loving organization that YOU claim Jehovah has provided" The irony would be lost on her though as she has ceased to be able to think coherently..............raving a bit sorry
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Victoria Australia, the FDS does not exist (eliciting gasps from the observers).
by confusedandalone incan someone please point me to anywhere that more information regartding this can be found.. i read a smidge about it in another post and would love to see if there is more info.
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Also that bit about denying this FDS as a corporeal body of people is true. The wt lawyer is a creepy man and is proud of being able to twist anything. He said as much in an interview.
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Victoria Australia, the FDS does not exist (eliciting gasps from the observers).
by confusedandalone incan someone please point me to anywhere that more information regartding this can be found.. i read a smidge about it in another post and would love to see if there is more info.
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umbertoecho
I have the transcript on my computer concerning this investigation/ Royal Commission into child abuse. I know that there was a legitimate issue raised by many including Steven Uthank regarding the "Working with Children" card that is required of any adult working in association with any child. The witnesses tried to sleaze their way around this issue, claiming ..........so much b##^sht ignorance of this law. If you want this document you are welcome to it.
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TRUE PROPHETS IDENTIFIED!!!
by DATA-DOG inthe prophets of science fiction.... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/prophets_of_science_fiction .
i just discovered this series on netflix.
it's pretty cool, fyi.. .
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There was a movie made called "The Devils" which is still available. Could turn you off religion though. It is an old movie but don't let that put you off..
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TRUE PROPHETS IDENTIFIED!!!
by DATA-DOG inthe prophets of science fiction.... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/prophets_of_science_fiction .
i just discovered this series on netflix.
it's pretty cool, fyi.. .
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The Devils of Lodon or is Loudon. I very well written book by Isaac Asimov. About the inquisition.