so talking with my wife last night...i was explaining to her about a conversation i had with a person at work about end times.
he has a strange belief that some scriptures in isaiah perdict something huge is going to happen in september of 2015. she then states that no one can predict the future only the father knows and he is in a cult.
lol on the inside.. i then stated "what about 1914 and the dubs perdiction and what it means today" she said no there was never any predictions.
I joined the cult studying the "Live Forever" book.
It was customary to take an elder/more competant JW on the study when it got to the chapter explaining the 607 BCE - 1914 CE teaching.
If it's an important teaching, every JW should be able to explain it in his/her own words.
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since it is the convention season (and i am not attending this year or ever again), and i have been seeing other posts about some of the goings on at the various ic's and rc's, i am reminded of some of the truly embarrassing behavior i have "witnessed" (pun intended) over my lifetime of being a jdub at the various conventions and assemblies.
probably the most disillusioning experience at a convention that i have ever had was one year when i volunteered to be an attendant.
all of the volunteers were asked to attend a special meeting a few months beforehand to get instructions for our duties as attendants.
respectful_observer: I would love to see the glares I would get if I decided to record this event on my phone/iPad.
If you can do it... DO IT.
They'll be so pre-occupied with sprinting for the best seats that they won't even notice you.
We need someone, ANYONE, to film this Christlike behaviour.
I used to turn up about 15/20 mins before it started. I never saw the need to turn up any earlier.
This is my first year since 1992 that I'll absent from the conventions.
Free at last.
Happy at last.
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a month ago i went to walgreens to get some snacks and a newspaper.
i was walking out when i noticed an elder that i grew up with walking towards me.
he kinda looked in my direction, the turned his head away and kept walking with his nose in the air.
It's his loss, Joliette,
I believe you when you say "I've never done anything to this elder, always been nothing but nice to him".
Sadly, that counts for NOTHING once you dare to question whether the organization is really "the truth".
Jesus didn't shun ANYONE, not even Satan (Mttw Ch.4). Remind him of that if you see him again.
You're more Christlike than this elder.
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man kills sister over plot of land published on july 18, 2014 by pmnews 17 comments.
sulaimon mojeed-sanni.
a member of the eiye confraternity and jehovahs witness, adeola omotayo, 28, has killed his sister, omotayo rukayat adedapo, 30, after a minor disagreement over a plot of land.. the incident happened at rukayats residence, 22, pasoku street, aga area of ikorodu, lagos, southwest nigeria.. preliminary investigation revealed that rukayat was murdered in her room by her brother, who sells building materials at sawmill in itamaga, on monday at about 6 p.m., after they had an argument over the ownership of the piece of land.. p.m.news gathered that the night before the murder (sunday), adeola and his wife had visited rukayat and eaten in her house.. friends of the deceased said adeola only visited to know where his sister stays since they had not been talking to each other in the last two years.. late omotayo rukayat adedapo.
insidetheKH: If you search the story on Google News, you'll find that it is being reported by many other news websites too.
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i don't know if it has been a good thing or a bad thing to have found this site.
i stumbled on it about a year ago as i mentioned in previous posts.
it has opened my eyes to so many things, but right now all is confusion.
Focus, that is one hell of a list.
Using their own literature (over 100+ years of it) to expose them.
It doesn't get any clearer than that.
Nice work, thanks.
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young earth creationists (like dr. john morris) are taken to task in an article producing the following statistics:.
let's begin with today's population of the earth (estimated) 6,623,924,220. call it 6 billion.. now, let's go back to noah and his family after the flood.
but--let's take the baby steps necessary to get from 8 people to our goal of 6 billion.. why?
Nice post. Very thought provoking.
I quickly researched world population estimates through the ages, but the problem is that none of these satanic, worldy, so-called 'educated' people take into consideration that there were only 8 people alive on the earth after the God of Love brought the flood.
Idiots
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i had a flash back yesterday.
my non jw husband and i went to disneyland and bought my young daughter a set of 7 dwarf toys.
after a few months i felt guilty and threw them away, thinking they were demonized.
Great topic! How stoopid were we all? Ha ha
I was contacted on first call just before I was 19. (1990)
1) Before I was sheep dipped I destroyed the cover of a beautiful bootleg album by The Smiths (A Nice Bit of Meat) because it has a photograph of a naked Marilyn Monroe which only showed a nipple. I've still got the LP, but it's no longer worth what it should be.
2) Also, my study conductor (who I married less than 5 months after I was put through the sheep dip) convinced me to get rid of ALL material I had by Throwing Muses (US indie band).
The reason? The lead singer, Kristen Hersh, had bi-polar and that was reflected in her music. To my wife, bi-polar was on a par with being demon possessed!
Who was I to argue? She had taught me nothing but "Truth", right???
3) Also, during my study, a brother from another congregation came along. He heard me listening to The Wonder Stuff song "Size of a Cow". He thought it was inappropriate because the lyrics talk about being 'drunk a thousand times'.
My wife-to-be overruled him when he left, and told me his favourite band was KISS. Feckin' hypocrite.
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Brilliant. Thanks
Putting any politics to one side, i now totally agree with Christpher Hitchens great piece of literature,
"God Is Not Great: How Religion Poisons Everything."
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i attended my last meeting in january 2014, having realised that i'd been lied to for 20+ years (i'm now 43 y/o).
rumours spread of my 'apostasy'.. in may, cobe contacted me inviting me to a private meeting with elders at the kh.
(no mention of the meeting being a jc).
problemaddict: My wife labeled me "an apostate" within 20 seconds of finding out that I wasn't happy with the way the reporting of child abuse is handled by the WTBTS. I am truly stronger, better and happier now that I am free on the mind control cult.
label licker: The incident of the brother talking to you then running when he thought his wife was coming is very sad. Fear of (wo)man? Fear of cult? If the elders slander my reputation they will have to do so very discreetly. My mother (never been a JW, but has been to few memorials and some of my public talks) is on speaking terms with many in the congregation, and will gladly confront them to question their Christlike qualities if they start to fight dirty. Go on, mother!!! ha, ha.
sylvlef: I think the "apostate" talk from my wife is a defensive, coping strategy. It's not been easy for her either. Out of the blue, her husband and best friend decides the "truth" is actually a huge lie. She still claims to believe 100%. After 22 years of marriage, we separated in April as a direct result of my finding out TTATT. I'm fine now, though. I won't allow the cult to defeat me. I'm looking forwards, not backwards. Life begins at 43 for me. If the elders want to get back in touch, I'm fine with that. I don't need their approval, they have no power over me.
i believe the organization is already easing up on disfellowshipping people for apostasy.
they know most doubters just want to be left alone.
disfellowshipping them turns them into martyrs.
I can't see them ever going soft on apostates. The whole cult is built on CONTROL.
They have to create a barrier (shunning) between the 'apostate' and the loyal sheep.
That barrier can only be enforced by individuals being DA'd or DF'd.
I think the only reason I got away with it was because I took control of the situation.
Additionally, my mother, brother and sister have never been in the cult and I made it clear that they were very interested to observe how 'true Christians' treat a member who no longer believes their teachings.
The elders are in a difficult position.
They need to control the congregation from my influence, while being under the gaze of my non-believing family.
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