Posts by Divergent

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Elders & Ex Elders, did knowing sins of congregation members change how you treated them?

by Wasanelder Once in

when you found out all the sins of fellow witnesses did it effect how you treated them?

it was shocking when i found out the range of bs these people did to each other.

i don't mean sexual abuse, i mean fraud, theft, infidelity and more.

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elderlNewton:

I did know a brother that had a hard time with porn. Well when I found that out I'll admit it was tough to shake his hand after.

Was it sticky?

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Strange sounds from the mens toilet ,late 80s early 90s

by pleaseresearch in

so as a young boy bored and wanting to stretch my legs i would sometimes take a trip into the toilet just to get away from the main meeting room.

did my little mind know what certain sounds were coming from behind the cubical?

no.. but now in my 30s i'm fully aware what that sound was.

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The urge was stonger than my love for God

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I can't just walk away, I need to keep reinforcing what I did was right (Leaving the org)

by pleaseresearch in

when i speak to my mum about things, she says why do you keep looking on the internet and news etc... why don't you just live your life and forget what you learned growing up.. maybe i was so so indoctrinated as a child that even though i have woken up and learnt ttatt, i still need to keep up to date with new findings from ex and fellow brothers and sisters.

listening to their testimony about why they left.. this was to me and all of you i'm sure, the truth.

so to finally wake up is absolutely massive.

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I can absolutely relate to how you feel. These are my reasons for being active on this forum:

1. To keep up to date on all the crazy stuff that is going on

2. Social aspect - being in a community of individuals who have something in common

3. An avenue for me to express my feelings

4. To encourage & support others

5. Reinforces my conviction that NOT being a JW is the best way to live!

6. Makes me thankful. Thankful that I am no longer any part of this cult!

7. I am on the lookout for people who I know. Unfortunately, haven't found any so far. Wake up, people!

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Just threw away...

by stephanie61092 in

so even though i don't drive much because public transit is so good where i live (and parking is a living nightmare), i always had a paper taped onto my glove box that said "no blood transfusions - jehovahs witness.

see legal documentation in wallet.

going through this "wake up" process as been a very crazy, emotional experience.

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Ditched mine when I faded. The contact info had already been outdated for quite some time anyway!

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Strange sounds from the mens toilet ,late 80s early 90s

by pleaseresearch in

so as a young boy bored and wanting to stretch my legs i would sometimes take a trip into the toilet just to get away from the main meeting room.

did my little mind know what certain sounds were coming from behind the cubical?

no.. but now in my 30s i'm fully aware what that sound was.

Divergent

Honestly speaking, I've wanked off at the KH before (without the sounds, though!)

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genuine english guy seeking jw lady

by english_gentleman in

hi, i believe that a lady is put on earth to satisfy the needs of her partner and respect his views in all matters.. i realize some here may consider that old fashioned and not based on sexual equality.. yet a lady and man are not created equal because the lady gives birth and the man must sire many children.

if you are a lady under 30 and keen to meet me, willing to cook and breed, then please message me here.

please do not contact me if you disagree with my views, we can agree to differ.

Divergent

i believe that a lady is put on earth to satisfy the needs of her partner and respect his views in all matters.

What about her needs? Shouldn't they be satisfied as well? Wouldn't a proper gentleman put the needs of a lady ahead of his own? What if your views are terribly wrong? Are you advocating blind respect?

i realize some here may consider that old fashioned and not based on sexual equality.

You got that right! Correction though - not some, but everyone! (oops, almost, with you as the exception)

yet a lady and man are not created equal because the lady gives birth and the man must sire many children.

There's no such thing as gender superiority now. It all boils down to individual capabilities

if you are a lady under 30 and keen to meet me, willing to cook and breed, then please message me here.

LOL... all the best with that!

please do not contact me if you disagree with my views, we can agree to differ.

I'm not contacting you, just replying to your post =)

please also be in london as i have run out of airmiles.

Hmm... stingy, aren't you?

thanks, english gentleman.. topic jw male london seeks jw female to breed

"Breed"... LOL WTF.....

By the way, please check up the definition of "gentleman" in the dictionary. It's far from what you are!

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genuine english guy seeking jw lady

by english_gentleman in

hi, i believe that a lady is put on earth to satisfy the needs of her partner and respect his views in all matters.. i realize some here may consider that old fashioned and not based on sexual equality.. yet a lady and man are not created equal because the lady gives birth and the man must sire many children.

if you are a lady under 30 and keen to meet me, willing to cook and breed, then please message me here.

please do not contact me if you disagree with my views, we can agree to differ.

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Misogynist alert!!!

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Today's Daily Text - Being Uneducated And Ordinary... WTF!!!

by Divergent in

jw
friends

thursday, march 3. they were uneducated and ordinary men.—acts 4:13.. in recent years, the spiritual instruction provided by jehovah’s organization has reflected an increased emphasis on simplicity and clarity.

consider three examples.

first, there is the simplified edition of the watchtower.

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WingCommander:

Luke was a doctor. Paul was a tax collector

Err... I think you mean Matthew? Lol. Anyway, at least we can see tthat there was some intelligence there

Let's see how the GB fares in comparison:

Morris is an asshole

Lett is a joke

Jackson is a liar

Herd is a misogynist

Losch is just boring

Splane is the guy who comes out with weird doctrinal explanations which make no sense

Sanderson is merely a yes-man just following what the others dictate

Uneducated and ordinary men indeed!

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JWs Do Not Know How To Think

by xjwsrock in

i recall a conversation i had after an international convention.

it was recently in the united states.

the one where they played the jesus drama and all that.

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I DON'T AGREE that JW's can't think. The fact that there are so many waking up shows that they can! =)

The tricky part is getting them to think. The recent ARC, the Candace Conti case, and other sex abuse scandals got many thinking. I believe that almost every JW has the potential to wake up, but in order for them to do so, something has to trigger them to start thinking first

We were all triggered to think by different things. For me, it was mainly the blood issue, sex abuse scandals, and not being able to get over the fact that God will destroy billions of innocent people at Armageddon. Others are triggered by false prophecies, 587 / 607 B.C.E., 1914, 1975, overlapping generations, the Mexico / Malawi scandal, the UN scandal, injustice in the congregation, the disfellowshipping of a family member or close friend, being disfellowshipped and shunned themselves, being stumbled by Anthony Morris or other GB members, unfulfilled expectations such as Armageddon not coming, something a householder said, stumbling across something online, etc. What works for some might not work for others. Every individual is unique in their thinking!

The most important thing is NOT to give up on such ones. There have been many experiences of ex-JW's on this site who were highly indoctrinated, but eventually woke up because their spouses / friends did not give up on them. Hopefully one day, your wife might be one of these ones!

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New June Awake with Misleading Statements about Evidence for god

by ttdtt in

the article (faith) is all about why you should have solid evidence based reasons for belief in god.

it's not good enough to believe in god just because you were raised to believe in god.. (from the article).

but god wants those who worship him to have genuine confidence in his existence and in his love.. then it goes on to tell us how we can get that genuine confidence that there is a god.

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This is how I feel about God:

If God exists, would he be so narrow-minded to kill me along with BILLIONS of good people just because we are not part of his religion? It is NOT that I do not want to believe in God. In fact, I welcome God to accept this challenge of mine: to make me a believer, to convince me without a doubt, if JW's or any other religion really have the truth. If God does not do that, then it's not my fault that I don't believe. After all, he has the power to convince me and he knows EXACTLY what he takes to convince me. If he does not convince me despite me requesting him to do so, then he has NO RIGHT to destroy me because it is not me who does not want to believe but rather it is he who has failed by choosing not to help me believe!

This is why I do not fear the future. If God doesn't exist, then I have nothing to lose by not following any religion. On the other hand, if God exists, then he does NOT have the right to destroy me if he does not convince me. After all, I have asked him to and he knows exactly what it takes!