Posts by Divergent

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Were we spiritually abused? Did or do we need spiritual healing?

by Fernando in

and if so what are our options?.

Divergent

Searcher, the blind ones who are in the pit are not only content to stay in the pit, but they are also digging downwards & making the pit deeper!

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3 JWs injured whilst Cart Witnessing

by Listener in

https://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/wa/a/25697590/three-injured-as-car-hits-park-bench/.

an elderly driver crashed into a park bench in mandurah, western australia today where 3 jws were sitting.

they had set up their jw cart and their literature was also strewn across the ground.. one of the jws was seriously injured with head injuries.. what a freak accident this is.. .

local needs "are you spiritually grown up?"

by sylvlef in

yesterday local needs was this theme.

are you spiritually grown up.. summary: if you are between 18-35 and not ms or elder, you lazy idiot are like a child.

at this age, especially if you grew up in "da trooooth" you have no issue with jw.org doctrine right (how do you know...?

How did your family react when you made it known that you did not want to be a JW anymore?

by Yondaime in

please share your experiences..

It is totally impossible for me to ever make it known to my family that I do not want to be a JW anymore. The best I can do is to fade, which I am still trying to do. It's not easy when most of the family are die-hard dubs!

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Excusing the JW Child Abuse Scandals.

by Phizzy in

my question is prompted by a post of terry's on his own thread about a parable for jw's.

in that post terry shows how the standard jw response to any report of sex abuse within the borg is to use the "no true scotsman" fallacy.. i.e "he was not a real jw".. my question is for some time in the future, when the true, horrendous, extent of abuse within the borg is public knowledge, and the cognitive dissonance grows for jw's about this being endemic in "god's organization" for so long, how will they excuse it, or explain it, then ?.

how will they push away the obvious conclusion that jehovah must have approved of this going on, or he would have rectified it, not left it to the courts to pick up the broken pieces years later ?.

Divergent

They would simply say that just as there were unrighteous ones in the first century Christian congregations, it is the same today and therefore we cannot expect Jehovah's modern day organization to be perfect!

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How many deaths does the Bible record?

by LogCon in

num 11:1. .

num 11:33. .

num 14:35-45.

Divergent

I once heard this JW arguement:

God DOES NOT kill. Killing is done by those who CANNOT give that life back again. Jehovah does not kill, he simply takes away the lives of people who are disobedient but he has the ability to grant them life & restore life to them again if he wants to!

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local needs "are you spiritually grown up?"

by sylvlef in

yesterday local needs was this theme.

are you spiritually grown up.. summary: if you are between 18-35 and not ms or elder, you lazy idiot are like a child.

at this age, especially if you grew up in "da trooooth" you have no issue with jw.org doctrine right (how do you know...?

Divergent

Zoos, in many cases there IS young blood eager to reach out, but the fault-finding & over-critical elders do not give them a chance. That was what happened in my case, and it had the reverse effect on me. Instead of striving to do more and "reach out", I was discouraged to the point that I began to despise "reaching out." I felt that it was as if the elders were dangling a carrot on the end of a stick in front of me & that I was the donkey wasting effort in trying to reach that carrot. That discouragement led me to discover TTATT & here I am!

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crisis of conscience

by venting in

jw
friends

if you were going to skip some parts of this book which ones would they be?

whats the best part?

i know i sound lazy, but i can't read this in bed next to my wife.

Divergent

Seriously? Don't tell me your wife is around you 24/7???

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Window-washer is the cover of Feb 2015 WT, "How to enjoy your work!" Hahaha!!

by EndofMysteries in

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after all the jokes and satire on this website about jw's only being able to amount to window washers and house cleaners, the cover page of "how to enjoy your work" showing a window washer and cleaner in the back ground.

i almost wonder if some awakened, still-in, from this site is part of the writing department or illustrations and put that in there as an inside joke for us?.

Divergent

Window washing, furniture moving, and gardening? No way for me!!!

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Elder Appointments

by MaybeSo in

doing some research as to what qualifications someone needs to meet to become an elder, i came up with one conclusion: it's who you know and is very subjective.. funny thing is too, if you searc the wt online library there are not recent articles that describe and outline the requirements.

which makes me think that there were too many requirements and as we all know, it is based now on how close you are with the current co and not necessarily on being a model jw in the congo.

so the borg decided to leave it up all to the co and not tell the rest what to look for on these appointed men.. you could do your hours, be early to the meetings, be prepared, keep your car and house clean, family in good reputation, etc but if you are in the circle then you can forget it.

Divergent

Speaking about hours, quantity is always more important in their eyes rather than quality. As for visibility, many who do fine works behind the scenes are overlooked in favor to those who do little but know how to put on a big show of the little that they do. That was so in my case. Go figure!