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  if tomorrow dozens of jws learned of ttatt

  by sowhatnow in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  and they left the congregations, would you then feel open to be thier friends?.

  many on here have the same complaint, that in the jw congregations, there were clickes, no one had time for each other,.

  people judged, there was a lack of association, freindship , true concern and love were lacking.

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  sparrowdown

  I would love for everyone in my local cong to learn TTATT, leave and then all come round to mine for some champagne.

  I would welcome them with open arms. I'm going to get all teary just imagining it.

  Call me a dreamer but I'm not the only one.
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  Will Elders Still Perform Marriages If The Sister Doesn't Marry At Least A Ministerial Servant?

  by minimus in

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  2. friends

  based upon the last big meeting this past weekend, would it be proper for an elder to perform a wedding ceremony if the brother is not at least a mini servant?.

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  Why don't they just start the practice of arranged marriage and be done with it.

  They have enough OT precedent for this.
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  Changed: Head coverings for sisters, w15 2/15 QFR

  by wifibandit in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  does a female kingdom publisher need to wear a head covering if she conducts a bible study in the presence of a male publisher?.

  in a questions from readers item published in the watchtower of july 15, 2002, it was stated that a sister should cover her head if she conducts a bible study in the presence of a male publisher, whether he is baptized or not.

  further consideration of the matter suggests that a modification to this direction is appropriate.. if the male publisher who accompanies the sister while she conducts an established bible study is baptized, the sister would certainly want to wear a head covering.

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  sparrowdown

  So what if the baptised male is a kid of ten?

  I knew sisters who conducted studies with men in the presence of their husbands and never saw the need.

  Most failed to grasp the basic principle behind it so had no idea why or when they should be wearing one.

  And why shouldn't sisters giving talks or doing demo's wear one? They are sitting in a room full of baptised males.
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  wow, shaking my head

  by Hortensia in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  my neighbor told me she had been talking about me recently.

  "i was saying to carrie in the office i just don't see how anyone can deny the existence of a higher power.

  she needed some q-tips, and found a box of them on the free table by the office.

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  What kind of parent would you be if you had food freely available to you but

  waited until your child was starving and begging for food before you fed them...if at all?

  A pretty sucky parent.

  God must be pretty damn stupid if he can't tell the difference between Q-tips and food.

  "Hey God just thought I'd let you know I'm drowning not waving"

  "Oh forgive me my child, I was waitng for your request to be more specific"
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  OMG: WT legislating about fragances and common sense

  by pixel in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  do they have to tell the r&f every little detail???.

  from the new wt:.

  what can be done to assist brothers and sisters who suffer from adverse reactions to fragrances?any who are sensitive to fragrances face a difficult challenge.

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  sparrowdown

  The KH is supposedly a public meeting place and it is unreasonable and impossible to police such things.

  The fact is it, it is not a crime to wear fragrances in public places.

  I know there are ones at the KH that would like the elders to be:

  fragrance police, fashion police, air-con/heating police, the list goes on and on.

  I have never met so many "sensitive ones" as JWs.

  Having said that I do suffer from allergies and would sometimes have to move seats.

  but so what? You have to put up with smells everywhere you go.
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  "down on your back" phrase. I never heard it until my husbsand said it

  by nonjwspouse in

  1. social
  2. physical

  nor have i heard others say it, ...until sanuel herd said it in the you tubed zone speach!

  is this actually a jwism?

  i never thought of it as such until i heard that today.. .

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  In what context?

  What does it even mean?
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  Anthony Morris III is really Anthony Esposito?

  by VM44 in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  can anyone confirm that gb member anthony morris iii's real birth name is anthony esposito?.

  if it is, that would explain why it has been hard to find his military record, or any other biographical information about him.. .

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  sparrowdown

  More like RANT-THONY !
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  "Her words suggest................."

  by RedPillPopper in

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  2. beliefs

  first time posting.

  i've lurked for about 2 years.

  30+yr convert.

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  Poor Bible Eve, a truly pitiable character.

  Let down by every person in her life.

  First her "father"sets her up in a seriously messed up loyalty test by placing an off-limits tree in the garden.

  Then allows her to be stalked by a predator angel.

  Then her spineless husband blames her for the abuse.Then the father that failed to protect her

  and kicks her out of the home and increases her pain of childbirth.

  Sheesh!

  Welcome to you BTW.

  Look forward to reading more of your thoughts.
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  JWs - A View From Outside

  by Joe Grundy in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i never was a jw (i make this point in - almost - every post) but having been brought up ('raised' for our us cousins) in a non-conformist fundy sect with 'rapture' aspirations, it wasn't that different.. i still have extended family members in it, or in that mindset, but we rarely discuss religion.

  in particular, my sister and bil lost their son (my nephew) some years ago when he was just 13. their comfort is that he is in a 'better place' and i don't want to challenge that to them.. i keep up with all things jw here in this forum and maintain my academic interest and these are just my thoughts as an outsider, for what they are worth.. ime, those people who have heard of jws tend to lump them in with mormons and other crazies and have no knowledge or interest in them - other than to warn neighbours when they are about.. where i live should be prime 'witnessing' territory but they rarely come round, even in the recent leafletting campaign.

  they are not as effective as the people who regularly call with the latest menus from the local curry/chinese/kebab houses.. on the occasions when jws have called, despite invitations to come in and have a cup of tea, etc., none has ever wanted to engage in conversation, far less progress to an invitation to a kh meeting or start a bible study (and i always present myself as an 'imterested householder').. my conversations with people in general and friends in the real world lead me to conclude that few people have heard of jws, those that have regard them as a minor irrevelant nuisance and that there is no interest in their message or beliefs.. a few months ago i did a 'drive-past' of the million pound seafront property in bangor, north wales that wt recently bought for use as a 'translation office' (ha ha!).

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  Thanks for that perspective.

  Helps reinforce for me that all those years of doorknocking was a complete and utter waste of my time and the that of the householders.

  Their worldwide preaching campain is a dismal failure.
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  WT recent public news release showing emergency support for MEMBERS only.....“

  by EndofMysteries in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  under news alerts on the borg website, i noticed 2 stories, 1 about the bus crash in honduras, and it's interesting that it seems that non jw agencies have helped out when you see this statement...."we appreciate the outpouring of support from the community and the various agencies that have come to the aid of those affected by this tragedy.

  so on this instance, it seems the wt welcomes aid from outside sources.

  now the 2nd story, is about the hurricane in mexico, and we have this statement...."in the aftermath of hurricane odile, which hit the coast of baja california sur on monday, september 15, 2014, jehovahs witnesses from the surrounding area provided food, water, and medicine to their members affected by the storm.

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  sparrowdown

  They will gladly accept the "outpouring of support" from all the people they have judged and condemned to death come the big A.