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  I tried to make an elder feel guilty for shunning his 2 children.

  by Jeannette in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  i ran into an elder the other day at walmart.

  he's a fairly good man and has a wife that is very sickly.

  so sickly in fact i don't know how she's holding on.

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  Nice try Jeannette, but I really don't think is possible to "shame" an elder they are impervious to shame.

  Even the the so-called TTATT "elders"
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  Elders and priests what 's the difference?

  by sparrowdown in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  is being a "good" elder the same as being a "good" catholic priest?.

  is there any difference between representing the rcc and representing that other bastion of child abuse the wt?.

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  You raise an interesting point shana, I think the JWs have been more effective in keeping victims silent.

  JW victims can be reluctant to report abuses (of various kinds) out of fear of "bringing reproach upon Jehovah's name".

  Which we all know is one of the gravest sins of all.
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  Can anyone confirm this?

  by bafh in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  my mom today said the brother behind the children's annimation used to work at pixar.

  is that true?

  if so, can anyone confirm it?.

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  The WT are playing to their niche audience - elderly women.
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  JWs & Guilt Trips

  by skeeter1 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  the watchtower is a manipulator.

  one of the tools they use is guilt, and they use it via the "guilt trip.

  " just so we are clear, a guilt trip is:.

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  sparrowdown

  I find JWs the worst offenders for this kind of double-speak.

  They never state their true intention or feelings, you have to translate everything they say.

  You have identified the real intention (to shame you) underneath their seemingly innocent

  remarks. They don't like it when you call them on it though.
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  Why do ultra rich jehovahs witnesses get a free pass when it comes to being materialistic?

  by hoser in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i know a couple of jws in my town that are both very wealthy.

  one has upscale retail stores and owns a property development company.

  the other has a large service company and owns a lot of real estate.

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  Oh yeah marina, I remember people oohing and aahing over how gorgeous their house was

  and what the latest dinner party was like and " but theyr'e sooooo spritual" .

  Sickening.
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  Elders and priests what 's the difference?

  by sparrowdown in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  is being a "good" elder the same as being a "good" catholic priest?.

  is there any difference between representing the rcc and representing that other bastion of child abuse the wt?.

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  The only thing elders debate is "are those socks too bright and those pants too tight?
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  Why JW marriage is a huge problem for the organization.

  by kneehighmiah in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the difficulty of finding a marriage mate is well known for sisters.

  but i would say it's hard for brothers also.

  i was talking to a jw last night.

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  The convention drama from a few years back portayed a young pioneer sister who dumped the nerdy spiritual

  brother in favor of the hot bad-boy. It showed her miserable and pumping out babies within a few years.

  Whereas her friend who married the nerdy spiritual brother was special pioneering with her husband and happy as a lark.
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  Why do ultra rich jehovahs witnesses get a free pass when it comes to being materialistic?

  by hoser in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i know a couple of jws in my town that are both very wealthy.

  one has upscale retail stores and owns a property development company.

  the other has a large service company and owns a lot of real estate.

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  sparrowdown

  I found the "triple threat" witnesses the worst.

  The triple threat being;

  wealth

  profession ( Dr, lawyer, engineer, etc)

  family connections

  These ones were treated like the congregation Kardashions.
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  After Six Months of Hiatus, I can tell you the Watchtower is Starting to Crumble Faster than you think!

  by SanLuisObispoTruthSeeker in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i took a hiatus from jwn because the wall started to collapse because i lost several people ive known almost my entire life.

  these were people i thought would never die, the lies told by the watchtower is unforgivable!

  there was a party i attended keeping a low profile while documenting what was said.

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  Oh (sigh) where are all the superhero double agent elders when you need them.
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  Did you AWAKEN from the JWs by yourself?

  by cultBgone in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i was thinking about how so many posters here on jwn are frustrated and frantic to help their loved ones get away from the brainwashing of jws, and how much advice is given about how to help family members and loved ones.

  i considered my own leaving and that it was internal turmoil based on the teachings getting weirder and child abuse issues, to name just a few, and it made me wonder:.

  did you self-awaken or were you assisted by the gentle proddings of a friend or family member?

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  I had a string of "wake -up calls", involving a terrible, horrible BOE on a witch hunt, and a handsy douchebag, details of which still haunt me to this day.

  Needless to say I have severe elder issues now.