Posts by sparrowdown

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Revisiting the two witness rule, new light.
by Crazyguy in
1. watchtower
2. child-abuse
it’s already been disgusted how mathew 18: verses 18 on showing that there’s not a cut and dry way to enforce a rule or law in another thread i started.

but let’s look at verse 16 the verse they like to quote.

the verse isn’t talking about having two witnesses to a crime or a wrong doing , it’s saying if you have a problem with a brother and he’s not willing to listen to your side off the issue to take some witnesses with you that agree with you to help establish that your point of view is in fact correct.
sparrowdown

It's not only been discussed we are all disgusted by it.
They could change this rule where it applies to child abuse allegations or any crime for that matter in a heartbeat, call it "new light" and everyone would be better off for it - everyone except WT that is.
If they changed this policy now would it be in effect admitting the policy was wrong? Would this open them up to even more historical liability? Would it open the floodgates to lawsuits from all the people that the rule adversely affected over the years?
I believe it would cost them more in reputation and money to change the rule than to keep insisting it''s their religion and it stands.
Same goes for blood and shunning they've painted themselves into a corner on these isssues and them and their legal team knows it. The best they can do is keep the wolves at the door by using the protections that religious freedom affords them.
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What is the benifits to living forever?
by Jayk in
1. watchtower
2. bible
can anyone give me a valid reason for it?

growing old is a drag.

the witnesses idea of ever lasting life, that you will come back to your most youthful state is such a bs answer..
sparrowdown

It's like JWs run a time scam they say give us all your time now and God will reimburse you later - after you have died - and he has resurrected you - at some undisclosed time and place - in the future - we promise 😉.
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hi, I am new, God bless all.
by Daniel Ronjom in
1. jw
2. friends
hi everybody.i am new to this forum.i have grown up as a christian in a christian family, but i recognized that jehovahs are more positive about peace on earth.

i believe in peace on earth too.

i believe in god and jesus and angels.
sparrowdown

No. Beauty contestants want "peace on earth" JWs want mass destruction of all non-JWs!
Buyer beware!
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I yelled at a Dub today!
by kairos in
1. jw
2. friends
i was walking out of the store and i passed a former jw associate of 20+ years.

"keith"he was an elder, got df'd, lost his wife, got reinstated and last i heard started pioneering!so i see him as i'm walking to my parking spot.. i stop, look him straight in the face and yell from 20 feet away, "you're in a cult.

you're in a cult, dude!".
sparrowdown

I 'm not gonna judge how you handle yourself around an old "friend." I'll just say yep, he in a cult.
Maybe apostates everywhere should ask cart people everywhere "can you prove to me this isn't a cult?"
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What is the benifits to living forever?
by Jayk in
1. watchtower
2. bible
can anyone give me a valid reason for it?

growing old is a drag.

the witnesses idea of ever lasting life, that you will come back to your most youthful state is such a bs answer..
sparrowdown

Ironically the knowledege that we will run out of time gives value and meaning to the limited time we have.
If time was endless would there be an imperitive to get anything done?
Maybe living forever would eventually make us ungrateful lazy apathetic procrastinators.
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How do JWs pronounce COBE?
by Wild_Thing in
1. jw
2. friends
just wondering.

when i was a witness, we had presiding overseer, and would say p-o for short.

do they spell it out when they say cobe or do they say it with as a word?
sparrowdown

Round these parts they just say "the coordinator" you know, a bit like "the terminator."
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new light! no one is completely shunned. normal family relations continue
by Kevin McFree in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
https://youtu.be/a2yc79cmolu.
sparrowdown

You overestimate millenial's standards for presentations and betray your age steve.
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new light! no one is completely shunned. normal family relations continue
by Kevin McFree in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
https://youtu.be/a2yc79cmolu.
sparrowdown

Excellent video for people who think WT doesn't LIE through their teeth!
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Please explain the Watchtower's "Ransom" for me
by Doug Mason in
1. watchtower
2. bible
according to the watchtower:.

who received the ransom payment?.

why did the ransomer need to be paid?.
sparrowdown

In WTworld there is a fourth party involved in the "ransom" the mediator's mediator and that would conveniently be WT itself!
Even though the ramsom was paid you still have to earn your right to a sucky conditional salvation by dedication and works to this mediator's mediator for the term of your natural life and even then your salvation is iffy!
Even though when JC was being executed he promisd his fellow execution buddy beside him who was not a follower of his that they would be together in a "paradise" after their death.
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Do you talk differently now to non-Witnesses?
by compound complex in
1. jw
2. friends
you, a jw:.

"how're you doing, mary?

" joe witness asks the grocery clerk.. "not so good, joe.
sparrowdown

Yes, I do.
When I see witnesses now I ask how their non-JW or DF/inactive kids, spouse or family are. I mention each of them of them by name but only in the context of how they are doing as people nothing borg related at all.
You know the ones they never talk about and you're not supposed to ask about.
They look at me like "why are you asking about them for when you know they're NOT in the truth!" LOL.
Oh the horror! I'm a wicked woman.