Bonnie_Clyde

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  My Aunt's funeral at the Kingdom Hall

  by Dogpatch in

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  i couldn't resist posting this good story from cynthia hampton.

  http://www.freeminds.org/sociology/women/my-aunt-s-funeral-at-the-kingdom-hall.html.

  randy.

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  Bonnie_Clyde

  About five years ago a witness in our area died. Knowing she had a disfellowshipped nephew, our congregation had a local needs part about not attending a funeral reception if a DF'd person was there. The congregation nearby forgot to do their local needs part, so the wife of one of the elders called most of the publishers to let them know how they should behave if he should show up.

  Just by chance, the DF'd nephew's wife gave birth the night before the funeral so he didn't attend. I think there would have been a lot of repercussions if he had.
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  Religion after JW

  by tmj4477 in

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  hello i was raised a witness from 7 to 17 then i left home and never looked back!

  i just never could get around the logic of no birthdays (but anniversaries), the roller coaster doctrines regarding college (they ensured various generations in to poverty with that one), the balls to use the rights that they refuse to defend (im a veteran), the whole df thing (how unchristlike is that!

  ), back and forth variations with blood transfusions, and last but not least using "elders" to counsel the flock without giving them proper education!.

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  Bonnie_Clyde

  Clyde and I talked about looking at another religion. We even talked to the Mormons for awhile, but realized very quickly that we would be just exchanging one high control religion for another. Clyde actually reads his Bible more now than he did before, but uses the NIV version.

  Still, inwardly we wanted to belong to a group that showed Christian love without the dogma. Then we discovered Moose International--there was a lodge right around the corner from us. About the only requirement was that we state that we believe in God and that we aren't terrorists. I had no idea that they do as much charity work as they do--nursing home and orphanage to name a couple. Clyde is now an officer and I volunteer my time as well. We've met a lot of good friends, have gotten better acquainted with our neighbors, are involved in several social events, and feel like our "spiritual" needs are being satisfied.
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  Did You Have Any Positive JW Leanings When You First Came Here?

  by minimus in

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  were you ever somewhat projw when you first came to this site?.

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  Bonnie_Clyde

  At first I still believed that JW's were right about blood transfusions, 1914 and using the name Jehovah. I was mostly interested in what really happened at Bethel around 1980 and what caused the 1975 fiasco. I still had a lot to learn.....
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  Worst Witness Wedding Experience?

  by spawn in

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  we went to oz for a wedding of a brother and sister from the sydney bethel.

  it was the most bizzare wedding of all time, the cake was a multi coloured telitubby creation and the veggie food option was baby octopus and squid, the alcohol was free flowing and all bethelites in attendance took full advantage.

  we were sat listening to the speaches and it was getting rowdier and rowdier and some of the language was rather unscriptual to say the least, as it was mixed jw and non jw we were surprised to find that all of this noise came from the bethelites.

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  Bonnie_Clyde

  The bride had about 6 bridesmaids who came from out of state. They all went to the same (JW) hairdresser on the wedding day who was an excellent hairdresser, but very slow. As you can guess they weren't done in time for the wedding, and it started two hours and 20 minutes late. In the meantime some of the non-JW relatives went out in the parking lot to smoke, there was some marijuana. I was the piano player and just about wore out my fingers keeping the music going. Clyde was determined to leave, but the parking lot was blocked with cars and he couldn't get out. Oh--two hours before the wedding the florist arrived at the KH with flowers, but nobody was there to let him in. The ring bearer didn't have his shoes. There was a big reception planned afterward at a rented hall, but the caterers finally got tired of waiting and left. Clyde and I went to a restaurant instead--we just heard about that part. The couple later divorced.
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  Onereason for a gentleman fader to stay reasonably associated...

  by whataburger in

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  one congregation phenomenon i have observed in a variety of halls - older, not so model material brothers have a real chance with younger, attractive sisters - and often at the prodding of the young sisters parents and congregation members.. and if you have a little more scratch than the average jw brother (which isn't hard to do with a bunch of window washers), you really have an advantage.. a 40 year old man walking through the mall would have zero chances with an attractive 18+ year old girl.

  but take that same man, who has been faithfully attending meetings and doing all the right things and put him in the kingdom hall and suddenly anything is possible.. sad, but true.. of course, who wants all the drama that comes with a girl that young - but it is something i have observed.. when i was in my early 20's and came back into "the truth", and i had a few dollars - and i had so many sisters tripping all over themselves for me... and the ages range from late teens to late 30's.

  it was crazy.

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  Bonnie_Clyde

  Interesting - years ago I remember people saying there was a shortage of brothers in our area. But lately, I've heard that the brothers were having a hard time finding an eligible sister. Maybe it was because the sisters were not spiritual enough although I know of several who left the organization.
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  ONE! NO EQUAL!

  by wannabe in

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  but he still wasn't finished, to my surprise, and i'd thought he was, with his last comment.

  i thought!

  i thought!

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  Bonnie_Clyde

  I spent years trying to defend the JW view on the trinity--often inwardly being confused by some of the scriptures that seemed to support it. Since I left the borg, I don't even want to discuss it...it just doesn't matter any more.
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  Are these things still frowned upon/banned?.

  by zzaphod in

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  thinking back, there were a few things i was told then, that now seem rather odd and petty.

  i was wondering if these thing are common in the wts or was it just that my girlfriend at the time was a pioneer, and her father was an elder.

  (so perhap a bit more "enthusiastic" than others).

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  Bonnie_Clyde

  We have to say "Information Board", not "Bulletin Board" at the Kingdom Hall, something to do with papal bulls.
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  Is the Yellowstone caldera safe? You decide...

  by Nathan Natas in

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  from: http://www.clevelandleader.com/node/12890.

  scientists on alert after hundreds of earthquakes daily rattle yellowstone national park.

  over the course of the past two weeks, more than one-hundred mostly small earthquakes per day, on average, have shaken up a remote area of yellowstone national park in wyoming.

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  Bonnie_Clyde

  "I'm glad I live west of Yellowstone, because if it blows everything east will be affected first. "

  Thanks! I live east.
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  What happened to your marriage after you stopped believing?

  by JerkhovahsWitless in

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  i know some posters here went through or are going through some painful things right now because of no longer believing when they have a husband / wife that still does.

  others were able to free the minds of their spouse.

  i'm assuming the latter is a lot more rare.. anyone that wishes to share their story, please do.. i'm looking to pass the info on to someone who doesn't totally believe, but may marry a jw.

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  Bonnie_Clyde

  Things got better in our marriage--I was the second to leave. Unfortunately, Clyde went through hell because he started his fade years earlier. I believe we would be divorced now if I was still a JW. However, it wasn't to appease him that I started investigating, but it sure did make it easier. I don't think I realized how much the "truth" was hurting our marriage until I left the "truth." For many years I thought the problem was HIM.
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  Is the Governing Body really Jehovah's mouthpiece?

  by dgp in

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  on another thread, african gb member wondered whether the members of the governing body really believe what they preach.

  and that led me to this thought:.

  unless i misunderstood what i have read, the governing body claims that jehovah communicates with them and tells them what to do.

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  Bonnie_Clyde

  Moshe said:

  I have asked many JW's, would their opinion about blood transfusions change, if they found out that 50% of the GB voted to make it a pure conscience issue.

  That reminded me...in 1978(?), when I first read the WT Q&A that certain blood fractions were OK, I remember thinking...."Isn't that like giving a pinch of incense to the emperor? I thought, they can do what they want, but I will NEVER compromise." But compromise I did. Up till that time I had been very diligent about asking my doctor if the vaccines my children were getting had any blood in them. I also asked at the meat counter whether there was blood in the sausage or if the chickens had been strangled. After 1978, I forgot all about it.