They do this all the time. Make a blatant statement, then throw in a scripture that has almost no connection as proof. The term "Governing Body" is not found anywhere in the scriptures, but they use the term so often that I'll bet many/most witnesses think it has to be there.
Bonnie_Clyde
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OUR ACTIVE LEADER TODAY sept 15 wt
by booby in4 still, christ found these same faithful anointed christians doing their utmost to.
provide timely spiritual food for the household of faith.
from 1879 onward, through.
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"Neither be called leaders" vs "Obey your leaders"
by Bonnie_Clyde ini'm trying to harmonize matt.
23:10 with hebrews 13:17. any thoughts?
or is this a contradiction?.
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Bonnie_Clyde
Yes. I just looked back a few verses, Heb:13:7, "Remember those who are taking the lead among you, who have spoken the word of God to you, and as you contemplate how their conduct turns our imitate their faith." I just don't like the word, "obey."
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"Neither be called leaders" vs "Obey your leaders"
by Bonnie_Clyde ini'm trying to harmonize matt.
23:10 with hebrews 13:17. any thoughts?
or is this a contradiction?.
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Bonnie_Clyde
I'm trying to harmonize Matt. 23:10 with Hebrews 13:17. Any thoughts? Or is this a contradiction?
Matt. 23:10 "Neither be called 'leaders' for your Leader is one, the Christ." Heb. 13:17 "Be obedient to those who are taking the lead among you and be submissive." Some translations say "Obey your leaders."
Bonnie
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The old big orange "Paradise" book
by aquagirl inanyone remember that?
i learned to read on that book.there were some very disturbing images,like the earth opening up and people falling into it.like upside down ladies and hippies.id love to get a hold of one and peruse it with a friend and some herbal medicine.maybe there is one in the attic?anyway,that and the image of the snake talking to the beautiful,bare shouldered eve,who was holding an apple,made a big impression on me.any else have any faves from that book?is it still being used?.
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Bonnie_Clyde
I remember the "Paradise" book like it was yesterday. Our daughter was only two years old Clyde and I were reading to her out of that book, and before we knew it she was reading herself. We were so proud that she could read quite well by the time she was four. I remember looking at that picture and saying some like, "Bad people--die at Armageddon." When our next child was born, a son, we tried to teach him to read the same way, and all he would do was hit the book and try to tear the pages. Well, our daughter is still a staunch witness, waiting for Armageddon to strike us dead--but our son, who wanted to tear the book up when he was little, wants nothing to do with the organization.
Oh I also remember how clearly the book explained the 70 or 80 year generation, and I even used that book to study with several people.
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Most JW's are Concerned with Position/Appearance - Not Serving God
by flipper inbeing raised in the jehovah's witnesses for 44 years ( exited 7 years ago ) - i observed many different variables that made each witness tick or operate.
but one of the most common variables was witnesses wanting to excel in progressing to positions becoming elders, ministerial servants, or pioneers because then and only then would they be looked at as allegedly " spiritual " or closer to jehovah.
but i learned as years went by that having a " position " in the congregation didn't make a person anymore " spiritual " or closer to god than witnesses who were not in appointed positions.. myself- having been appointed a ministerial servant at the tender baby age of 20 yrs.
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Bonnie_Clyde
We had a circuit overseer who announced from the platform that he was leaving the circuit work because his daughter was having triplets and he felt that she needed his help. I had great respect for that man (wish I could remember his name).
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DID ANYONE ELSE JUST FEEL THAT EARTHQUAKE??
by Mary ini'm sitting here working away and about half an hour ago, i felt everything start to shake.
i thought "what the heck is that?
" they're doing construction next door so i thought maybe that was it, but apparently, we just had a earthquake here in southern ontario and quebec.. anyone else feel it?.
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Bonnie_Clyde
Didn't feel it even though some people felt it in our area. How many people have earthquake coverage on their home? I decided several years ago to spend the extra $100/yr just in case. I remember two years ago waking up at 5:30 a.m. with my bed shaking. I've mentioned earthquake insurance to several of my friends and they don't think they need it. My insurance agent says she has very few people with the coverage.
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Clarifications on the 2010 Generation Overlap
by pirata inyet another generation thread... but this clears up quite a bit of the ambiguity in the watchtower/outline explanations.
in "remain in the secret place of the most high", the closing talk of the 2010 district convention, the following clarifications were made on the 2010 generation overlap:.
the generation spoken of in exodus 1:6 includes all those mentioned whose lives overlapped (joseph, brothers, children, grandchildren).
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Blondie - I found the info in the "Let Your Name Be Sanctified Book", starting on page 335 and continuing for several pages. It suggests that when Rutherford was on his death bed and he summoned two men of the anointed remnant (who we know to be Fred Franz and Nathan Knorr), that, "It appears that there the Elijah work passed, to be succeeded by the Elisha work." It inferred that Rutherford's death was like crossing the Jordan River. Paragraph 7 "In 1942, in the throes of World War II, the Elijah work passed."
This book came out in 1961...I remember studying it back then but didn't know it was "new light."
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Clarifications on the 2010 Generation Overlap
by pirata inyet another generation thread... but this clears up quite a bit of the ambiguity in the watchtower/outline explanations.
in "remain in the secret place of the most high", the closing talk of the 2010 district convention, the following clarifications were made on the 2010 generation overlap:.
the generation spoken of in exodus 1:6 includes all those mentioned whose lives overlapped (joseph, brothers, children, grandchildren).
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Bonnie_Clyde
Rutherford wrote about the Elijah class and the Elisha class which took over in 1928 from the early anointed. So this is not a new idea because remember the WTS taught that the anointed would go to heaven in 1914.
Addition: the Elisha class took over in 1919 and was given a "double portion" of what Elijah received.
Blondie - I'm a bit confused. I remember the "Let Your Name Be Sanctified" had the Elisha class taking over in 1942 when Rutherford died.
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JW's humble?
by donny induring my trek through the jw's i often heard talks and comments stating how witnesses were humble and meek, unlike the haughty-title loving people of the world especially christendom.
well i just received my 2010 alumni directory that covers everyone who graduated from the two high schools that were part of the district i live in.. so i spent the afternoon parusing its pages when i came across a listing for a guy who is now an elder in the congregation i used to attend.
here is how he describes himself.
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Bonnie_Clyde
As Clyde would say, "I'm so proud I'm humble."
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WT September 15, 2010 - The Faithful and NOT SO Discrete Slave
by Designer Stubble inthe wt of september 15, 2010 (kool-aid version) has two articles on unity.
one is titled: unity identifies true worship and the other christian unity glorifies god.
of course it is more uniformity, not true unity.
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Bonnie_Clyde
I'm going to ask a rather embarrassing question as I should know the answer by now. Isn't it true that I can get the KookAid edition of the WT on www.watchtower.org? If so, how to I find them? I want to see the entire 9/15/10 article.