I don't get it. How can God, a non-physical, immaterial, spirit being (according to the Bible) and outside the scope of 'science' (defined as ' the systematic study of the structure and behaviour of the physical and natural world through observation and experiment'), be proven scientifically? You might as well be claiming science can prove how many angels can dance on the head of a pin. It's a non-starter.
AnnOMaly
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Science proves there is a God
by seekchristonly infusion with god natural .
in the cosmos universe or whatever.
all things are made of the same materials etc so humans will always be fused with the universe in life and death because those building blocks are eternal.
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This week's WT study...made me so sick.....
by stuckinarut2 inthis week's study april 15th 2014 was called "do you see the one who is invisible?".
it was perhaps one of the most depressing, controlling, fear-mongering, stress inducing, doctrinally incorrect, hate-inspiring, judgemental, cult-like, irrational, hyped-up, critical, crazy, stretched out, fanciful, illogical, burdensome, inflated, coersive, manipulative, and brain-snappingly weird stuff i have read for some time.... (but i'm sure it was just a rehash and repeat of previous stuff...for the new masses....).
i had to keep up a sane appearance while in the hall, and even answer some garbage while this was being 'studied'... my cognitive disonance must be so strong now, because i found this one of the hardest ones to endure....now that i am home, i have poured a stiff drink and am trying to clear my head...... one paragraph was classic:.
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AnnOMaly
when I gave answers that were not straight from the paragraph months ago in a study, I got told off for "soapboxing my own thoughts". All I said though was the same stuff from the paragraph but in a different way!
Tsk, tsk to the person who told you off. They are not in line with theocratic direction.
*** jl lesson 9 How Can We Best Prepare for the Meetings? ***
When you can answer the question, underline or highlight a few key words or phrases in the paragraph that will bring the answer back to your mind. Then, at the meeting, you can raise your hand if you wish and make a brief comment in your own words.
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*** w03 9/1 p. 21 Praise Jehovah “in the Middle of the Congregation” ***
Learn to answer in your own words. Reading a comment from the study material may indicate that you have found the right answer, and it may be a good way to get started commenting. But progressing to answer in your own words shows that you understand the point. Our publications need not be quoted verbatim. Jehovah’s Witnesses do not simply repeat what their publications say.
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*** be p. 70 par. 2 Know How You Ought to Answer ***
Learn to comment in your own words rather than reading directly from the paragraph. Do not become disturbed if a comment you make does not come out exactly right. That happens occasionally to everyone who comments.
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Help please!!!
by braincleaned inmy mom just hung up on me, convinced that the borg has never said that jesus was not the mediator between the sheep and him!.
i know they have presumptuously took the place of jesus as mediators can someone pleeeeeeze give me the wt references of this?.
she does not believe me..
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AnnOMaly
See also http://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/2008922#p15
... God can then take them into the new covenant with the prospect of their becoming heavenly king-priests! As their Mediator, Jesus assists them in maintaining a clean standing before God.—Heb. 2:16.
14 What about those who are not in the new covenant, those who hope to live forever on earth, not in heaven? While not participants in the new covenant, these are beneficiaries of it. They receive forgiveness of their sins and are declared righteous as God’s friends. (Jas. 2:23; 1 John 2:1, 2) Whether we have a heavenly hope or an earthly hope, each one of us has good reason to appreciate Jesus’ role as the Mediator of the new covenant.
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Help please!!!
by braincleaned inmy mom just hung up on me, convinced that the borg has never said that jesus was not the mediator between the sheep and him!.
i know they have presumptuously took the place of jesus as mediators can someone pleeeeeeze give me the wt references of this?.
she does not believe me..
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*** w79 4/1 p. 31 Questions From Readers ***
● Is Jesus the “mediator” only for anointed Christians?... At a time when God was selecting those to be taken into that new covenant, the apostle Paul wrote that Christ was the “one mediator between God and men.” (1 Tim. 2:5) Reasonably Paul was here using the word “mediator” in the same way he did the other five times, which occurred before the writing of 1 Timothy 2:5, referring to those then being taken into the new covenant for which Christ is “mediator.” So in this strict Biblical sense Jesus is the “mediator” only for anointed Christians.
This view was reaffirmed 10 years later:
*** w89 8/15 p. 30-1 Questions From Readers ***
□ Is Jesus the Mediator only for spirit-anointed Christians or for all mankind, since 1 Timothy 2:5, 6 speaks of him as the “mediator” who “gave himself a corresponding ransom for all”?
... The people of all nations who have the hope of everlasting life on earth benefiteven now from Jesus’ services. Though he is not their legal Mediator, for they are not in the new covenant, he is their means of approaching Jehovah. Christ said: “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.” (John 14:6) All who will gain life on earth must direct their prayers to Jehovah through Jesus. (John 14:13, 23, 24) Jesus also serves as a compassionate High Priest who is able to apply in their behalf the benefits of his sacrifice, allowing them to gain forgiveness and eventual salvation.—Acts 4:12; Hebrews 4:15.
Consequently, 1 Timothy 2:5, 6 is not using “mediator” in the broad sense common in many languages. It is not saying that Jesus is a mediator between God and all mankind. Rather, it refers to Christ as legal Mediator (or, “attorney”) of the new covenant, this being the restricted way in which the Bible uses the term.
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Unbalanced way of thinking?
by msconcerned inso, one hot beautiful (not a cloud in the sky) kind of summer day, there was an elder who decided to re shingle his house.
this was on the book study day.
he started early and got all the shingles off of the roof in time for the book study that night.
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Two, no, three things surprise me about this story.
1. It's not in the Yearbook.
2. Jehovah didn't save his house even though the guy put 'kingdom interests' first.
3.There's no epilogue about how his damaged house proved to be a blessing in disguise because now he has a bigger and better house and all his children are special pioneers because of his example of faith and sacrifice.
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AnnOMaly
LOL. She had it coming.
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Thank you for this forum! Without it I couldn't sit through the meetings!
by stuckinarut2 inthe only way i can sit through the meetings is due to having my tablet and connection to this forum!.
since awakening, i can't believe how much i cringe each and every meeting when i hear all the propaganda and garbage spewed out from the bible and the society!.
i only cope by venting on here.. (plus it is so easy when sitting at the back of the hall or on the sound control box... hahaha).
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AnnOMaly
This place has helped keep me sane too.
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"Come all who are toiling and I will refresh you. My yoke is kindly and my load is light"
by stuckinarut2 inso we all know that matt 11:28-30 says .
28 "come to me, all you who are toiling and loaded down, and i will refresh you.29 take my yoke upon you and learn from me, for i am mild-tempered and lowly in heart, and you will find refreshment for yourselves.
30 for my yoke is kindly, and my load is light.. it amazes me immensely how the organisation has completely overlooked the intent of this verse as supposedly said by gods son!.
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Matthew 11:28-30 - The Message (MSG)
“Are you tired? Worn out? Burned out on religion? Come to me. Get away with me and you’ll recover your life. I’ll show you how to take a real rest. Walk with me and work with me—watch how I do it. Learn the unforced rhythms of grace. I won’t lay anything heavy or ill-fitting on you. Keep company with me and you’ll learn to live freely and lightly.”
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August 2014 Kingdom Ministry (KM - 08/2014 PDF)
by WatchTower87 inour kingdom ministry august 2014 - special number - :-p. .
instruction: press the 'skip ad' button top right, you should then see the download screen more easily.
no virus ;-).
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AnnOMaly
Thanks for the download :-)
But hmpf.
A headline celebrates 100 years of 'kingdom rule' and quotes a snippet of Rutherford's 1922 'Advertise' speech, as if what Rutherford said back then is still true. The fuller quote with the parts the km used in bold and 'truths' now way past their use-by dates in red:
"... Since 1914 the King of glory has taken his power and reigns. He has cleansed the lips of the temple class and sends them forth with the message.The importance of the message of the kingdom cannot be overstated. It is the message of all messages. It is the message of the hour. It is incumbent upon those who are the Lord's to declare it. The kingdom of heaven is at hand; the King reigns; Satan's empire is falling; millions now living will never die.
"Do you believe it? Do you believe that the King of glory is present, and has been since 1874? Do you believe that during that time he has conducted his harvest work? Do you believe that he has had during that time a faithful and wise servant through whom he directed his work and the feeding of the household of faith? [back then, believed to be Russell - Ann] Do you believe that the Lord is now in his temple, judging the nations of earth? Do you believe that the King of glory has begun his reign?
"Then back to the field, 0 ye sons of the most high God! Gird on your armor! Be sober, be vigilant, be active, be brave. Be faithful and true witnesses for the Lord. Go forward in the fight until every vestige of Babylon lies desolate. Herald the message far and wide. The world must know that Jehovah is God and that Jesus Christ is King of kings and Lord of lords. This is the day of all days. Behold, the King reigns! You are his publicity agents. Therefore advertise, advertise, advertise, the King and his kingdom." - W. 1922, 11/1, p. 337.
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The March 1, 1952 Watchtower says, "Go back... and Die!"
by Londo111 in"those who are acquainted with the situation in the congregation should never say hello or goodbye to him.
he is not welcome in our midst, we avoid him.
such an individual has no place in the clean organization or congregation of god.
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AnnOMaly
I found the quote via googling. Next time, I need to verfiy the source a little closer.
LOL - I thought it wasn't from you. Which site was it from, as a matter of interest?