(((HI))) EVERYONE
Maybe some other people will put some other postes related to. I was looking on which poste what I want to say will fit in … Needed to talk about something to those Who don’t care about what the WTBS is able to do to his honest followers.
First I’d like to add something
I’ve chose this one because it talks to parents and - the (((VICTIMES))) http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/22/32222/1.ashx and complete the aspect of this present poste which talk to the CITIZEN (EVERYBODY)
Lots more available on the board (archives)
But I’m going trying to take the question by an other side : And to me it's always about the first question – in talking an other subject
For example : for the specific question “WHO’s SCREWING THE WORLD” if I introduce the subject by :
(a) For instance, CAN WE SAY that we are NOT SCREWING THIS WORLD ?
here your back on your instinct (the feelings can interfere but you don’t need them to guide you) – because, I’m talking about “WE”.
And Everybody is able to say : yes WE are, and will be able to check a lot of wrong stuff – even if you feel that WE included YOU.
(b) And now if I say : CAN YOU SAY that you are NOT SCREWING THIS WORLD ?
here you have to deal with your own feelings with their own specific modulations - experiences – because, I’m talking about “YOU”. Everyone (most of the time) will answer NO-because “I” / or YES-but “I” … (so we can’t focused on the real subject) those details are important but we can’t focused on the “real first biggest problem” and we won’t be able to set the priorities in good order.But ANYWAY to FIND OUT about the real subject “Who are or will be the (biggest) victim(s)?” on each point and step, Is the first question … and not Who is guilty? (and “who” : by the way can also be one of the “second hand” victim) … The questions will have to come on each issue (who’s guilty), but not in the first place because at this point we will have to balance our questionings and answers on every “YOU potential second victims “ involved or not in the matter (before we will be able to notice the priorities). IF we focused on the wrong bases of the subject we can’t find the right answer (or by hazard … IT CAN … sometimes … But with human beings dealing with everything, to fit in or fix it, without loosing is pretty hard. Most of the time we can’t WIN (for real) without LOOSING (for false) Because : WHAT ARE WE LOOSING and AND WHAT ARE WE WINING ? When we are talking about being Fair … We just forgot about dreaming … if everybody don’t have the same needs at the same time everybody at least have the same dream (BEING HAPPY) every feeling in each one of us has an accountancy based on our own experience about everything) Experience = Influenced information. And the wrong information can lead very far in the process of feelings as well as the right information.As Ex JW most of people have been able to “give more” than they would never give for a JOB for a HOPE n/or a DREAM (even a KID sometime, which is one of the biggest sacrifice) … For a “god” that we don’t even really know … Who didn’t say “really” or Who shouldn’t really say (as a GOD) … “I am the one who needs you”. - The Earth do, human beings do … need US---To talk to those who are still JW (I mean who are still following there rules of this org – Don’t talking about those who love JAH), on some specific subjects, let’s only try an explanation on starting to question us systematically with WRONG – because we don’t care when we are RIGHT and it is the same process of modulation anyway so, in the stories about abuses:1) ___the guy was WRONG
(instinct / deeper than a feeling = he knows it !)
and = Everybody knows that it is wrong (instinct : “supposed” to be unconscious )
2) ___the guy became NOT GUILTY
(influence = help in any kind)
(feelings = he knows or not)
and = Everybody knows or not (feelings = conscious and unconscious)
Result from stage 1 to 2 : MODULATION(s ) / VARIATION(s) of base of the feeling (our instinct)Then the guy (CAN) became MORE (A) here : abusive ; “MORE” WATEVER kind of influence will get into the process (1-2 to come back to 2 … and not to 1 … Since the start it’s always an add from the second base 2) – Only a REVERSE INFLUENCE/questionning can help to go back on our instinct)
Even though the influence says NOT GUILTY nor NOT PUNICH
feelings = he knows or not (Instinct or feelings ? : conscious and unconscious)
and = Everybody knows or not (instinct or feelings ? : conscious and unconscious)and = EVERYBODY is More wrong and more guilty in FACT.BUT N/OR even THE VICTIME(s) same example than (a) in the firt part of the development of the subject
We all know that instinctively (when we really think about something). To make my reasoning clear about that and to show how “it works”. Let’s take a “false” CASE but “ALWAYS TRUE” instinctively somehow CASE : JWs parents with their daughter abused and against them ANYONE ; face to face (no crap before to) ask the question in an other way : WHO’S GOT HURTED ? Instinctively we should be more quickly be able do “SEE” WHO are the VICTIMES! That’s what anyone who’s is really affected by the case instead of “himself” will notice and pay attention first … (instinct – before any ego-feelings that can follow with less trouble after the first needed process) BASICALLY found out WHY we are talking about something? (here the VICTIMES)Try the question on different kind of situations in justice = fairWho’s got screwd ?Who’s got hurted ?… the first question should be WHO IS THE VICTIME ? … Before WHO is GUILTY – wrong n/or right) ? And YES anybody can be GUILTY in THINKING (feelings ) DOING SOMETHING GOOD. That’s why we are always wrong (short-term long term - waste) in trying to think about hilling the symptoms before the disease (fix the man instead of fixing the question about his religion for example - and that doesn’t even mean that you have to forget about GOD)BUT in any way I think that when we stick on the fair priorities (more instinctive view … ) We make sure that at least we will have a minimum of wastes nor loss for the victims.Here for example :If I’m asking to you IF YOU are able to take the DEFENCE of the WTBS and their “strategies”, ON those kind of cases only or particularly (abuses – every kind …), Take the CROWN and NOW YOU ARE GOD : Who is the victim ? (Do GOD need HELP to state about THAT ? Yes because : Do GOD/YOU IN THIS CASE Need HELP ANYWAY ? – If yes, that only means that you are involved in the case somehow – and if you are involved are you able to state ? (feelings) – Now remember who is the biggest victim ? ( instinct ) so to me this is a BIG INCOHERENCE !!!Of course : if I’m just saying ; GOD NEEDs HELP ! Please Brother check and found out about the problems about each case … (you won’t be able to be fair – no way here … (not one) … if you want to help god because god wants you to be fair)Now : if I’m saying ; GOD JUST want you to BE FAIR ! (instinct!!! Is back AND you want to survive) … Will you have any problem to state about it ? : the daughter is the victim – and you and one of yours maybe the next one,NOW : What do you think ? What does GOD WANT ? : -- ---- !