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Assembly Hall and Gentleman's Club

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the spanish exjw forum is burning fire with the massive sale of jw kingdom halls and an assembly hall in spain, each week new listing places appears.

would jw survive in this country??

surprisingly the sources have found that a real estate agency named "benialsa" is massively promoting the sales.. http://www.fotocasa.es/inmobiliarias/benialsa-gestion-inmobiliaria-9202753892339.

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Update on this subject...

Few months after denying it, the fact is that two Assembly Hall are publicly "For Sale".

Now everybody looks happy for the news... They heard about a new project of Assembly Hall including new facilities.

All assembly halls sold in the past 5 years plus current ones to be sold may do around 6-7 Millions €. All of them were doing good to continue to be used for assemblies, but they decided to sell them. One of them was sold to Filipino cult "Iglesia de Cristo" and another one has been offered to the local Muslim community.

The new location almost ready to be used has a value of 7-8 Millions €. So they can pay the new location. Anyhow the Spanish branch decided to launch a donation scheme... 10 € a month for each publisher during 5 years. They sold the idea that the new location cost less than a coffee per day.

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Russian laywers price

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some sources in spanish forum points 50 millions us$ as the total amount payed to wt lawyers in russia.. despite this they have not stopped the liquidation of russian branch.

personnel will be relocated in finland and administration will be covered from poland.. source: http://www.extj.com/showthread.php?27809-noticias-de-rusia&p=508612#post508612.

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The expensive price of the local lawyers has not stopped the current situation of JW in Russia.

The recent letter specifying all Russian JW about how to "preach" now there is amazing. Please continue to spread the word only with the Bible and please do not link this with an organised activity if you are summoned by officials....

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Volunteer workers pushed to renounce to their social rights

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surprisingly in spain, a large quantity of bethel volunteers (nice to words to say workers) have received their letter telling they are not anymore required.

in this country, government obliged bethel to give social rights such as basic social security (doctors, etc..) to the volunteers as they understand that it is a business relationship.. all of them have been pushed to sign a letter stating they renounce to their work and then go outside bethel with not a single right (unemployment, etc...).

it is really unfortunately but silly from bethel office to arrange it this way.

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Their system to fire off Bethelites continue in force but in a more systemised and "arranged" way.

When they are informed about their exit, they are asked to sign a declaration as they are request Bethel to leave, leaving them in fact with no grounds for a judicial claim.

Together with this, they receive their "exit package". We might think it might be a compensation payment. At all...

Their "exit package" consist of a list of different social benefits available for them and a phone number of a agency. This agency made up by JW takes care to request all the available social benefits in behalf of them.

Many are accepting this "arrangement" as a loving care from Jah, when the fact is that they are get laid off almost at no cost.

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European Prospective 2017-2022

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the new "business plan" for jw.org in europe has already received a name within the org: european prospective 2017-2022.. this plan is already on the table of the big guys in the us.

in the practice it has been already getting the approval of the majority.

so, no surprise at all to vote it.. essential features of the "business plan":- sale of all branches in the eu, except germany and uk (the latter benefits from brexit and certain privileged position)- all printing and digital material prepared and printed from germany- in each country, a local liaison office is left, certainly no more than 3-4 families.- free part-time worker is boosted from home, cheaper and hastle-free !- money to the new entity formed in belgium, as a non-profit organization (ibsa goodbye ...)- the most complicated ... who will care for the data of european jw ... confidential information and color envelopped with sensitive information.... enjoy the new european jw times !.

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Hi Master_Bod,

Service Department can be reduced very much using fully Internet and computer technologies. New appointments will be digital...

Translation office will reduced as much as a full time coordinator and all the other work will be shared by part-timer "helpers" working from their home. Much less expensive.

Such an impressive growth. They are turning out to be a low-cost cult.

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European Prospective 2017-2022

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the new "business plan" for jw.org in europe has already received a name within the org: european prospective 2017-2022.. this plan is already on the table of the big guys in the us.

in the practice it has been already getting the approval of the majority.

so, no surprise at all to vote it.. essential features of the "business plan":- sale of all branches in the eu, except germany and uk (the latter benefits from brexit and certain privileged position)- all printing and digital material prepared and printed from germany- in each country, a local liaison office is left, certainly no more than 3-4 families.- free part-time worker is boosted from home, cheaper and hastle-free !- money to the new entity formed in belgium, as a non-profit organization (ibsa goodbye ...)- the most complicated ... who will care for the data of european jw ... confidential information and color envelopped with sensitive information.... enjoy the new european jw times !.

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I know a few places where a rebellion will take place: Spain, Italy and Portuguese Bethels...

Spain Bethel can be sold very easily to a University. It makes a perfect small campus. Many will ponder now if they last 5-10 years in the Org will be useful. They will be moved to leave without compensation !

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European Prospective 2017-2022

by sp74bb in

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the new "business plan" for jw.org in europe has already received a name within the org: european prospective 2017-2022.. this plan is already on the table of the big guys in the us.

in the practice it has been already getting the approval of the majority.

so, no surprise at all to vote it.. essential features of the "business plan":- sale of all branches in the eu, except germany and uk (the latter benefits from brexit and certain privileged position)- all printing and digital material prepared and printed from germany- in each country, a local liaison office is left, certainly no more than 3-4 families.- free part-time worker is boosted from home, cheaper and hastle-free !- money to the new entity formed in belgium, as a non-profit organization (ibsa goodbye ...)- the most complicated ... who will care for the data of european jw ... confidential information and color envelopped with sensitive information.... enjoy the new european jw times !.

sp74bb

The new "business plan" for JW.org in Europe has already received a name within the org: European Prospective 2017-2022.

This plan is already on the table of the big guys in the US. In the practice it got already getting the approval of the majority. So, no surprise at the end !

Essential features of the "Business Plan":
- Sale of all branches in the European Union, except Germany and UK (the latter benefits from Brexit and certain privileged position)
- All printing and digital material prepared and printed from Germany
- In each country, a local liaison office is left, certainly no more than 3-4 families.
- Free part-time worker is boosted from home, cheaper and hastle-free !
- Money to the new entity formed in Belgium, as a non-profit organization (IBSA goodbye ...)
- The most complicated ... Who will care for the data of European JW ... Confidential information and color envelopped with sensitive information...

Enjoy the new European JW times !

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Bethel Economy

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revelation 6:6 kjv.

6 and i heard a voice in the midst of the four beasts say, a measure of wheat for a penny, and three measures of barley for a penny; and see thou hurt not the oil and the wine.. this prophecy starts to be true in south europe bethels..... according to our sources, bethel families have been asked to reduce their food allowance and even been informed that monthly contribution might not be paid.. meantime, one of these branches is sending millions of € every year as donation to other wt structures, not to mention the 7 digit number on their bank account.

bethel members are not blind ;).

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Interesting point Lostandfound. My personal opinion is that funds through UK can be understood as a "donation" for tax authorities. IBSA is a charity, while Selters is not...

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Bethel Economy

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revelation 6:6 kjv.

6 and i heard a voice in the midst of the four beasts say, a measure of wheat for a penny, and three measures of barley for a penny; and see thou hurt not the oil and the wine.. this prophecy starts to be true in south europe bethels..... according to our sources, bethel families have been asked to reduce their food allowance and even been informed that monthly contribution might not be paid.. meantime, one of these branches is sending millions of € every year as donation to other wt structures, not to mention the 7 digit number on their bank account.

bethel members are not blind ;).

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Zeb, very clear. Millions of € (7 digits) are transferred monthly as donation to IBSA from Spain branch.

While they were arguing not having money, some Bethelites were sharing a copy of the bank transfer among the family.

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Bethel Economy

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revelation 6:6 kjv.

6 and i heard a voice in the midst of the four beasts say, a measure of wheat for a penny, and three measures of barley for a penny; and see thou hurt not the oil and the wine.. this prophecy starts to be true in south europe bethels..... according to our sources, bethel families have been asked to reduce their food allowance and even been informed that monthly contribution might not be paid.. meantime, one of these branches is sending millions of € every year as donation to other wt structures, not to mention the 7 digit number on their bank account.

bethel members are not blind ;).

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This week-end Spain Bethel family is getting a family gathering party.

In the last weeks, there were a rebellion on board. A lot of brothers and couples not staying on lunch or dinner. Many of them doing noise with the chairs during prayers at Morning Worship...

Some of them shared their situation with local congregations.

Finally after days, they got the monthly allowance... With a clear statement that money will be available. On this gathering very good grilled meat was shared....

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Bethel Economy

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revelation 6:6 kjv.

6 and i heard a voice in the midst of the four beasts say, a measure of wheat for a penny, and three measures of barley for a penny; and see thou hurt not the oil and the wine.. this prophecy starts to be true in south europe bethels..... according to our sources, bethel families have been asked to reduce their food allowance and even been informed that monthly contribution might not be paid.. meantime, one of these branches is sending millions of € every year as donation to other wt structures, not to mention the 7 digit number on their bank account.

bethel members are not blind ;).

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Barrold it is evident you have not been reading previous posts I did: Russia, Belgium Bethel on sale, etc...

This first two has been confirmed later on locally...