Posts by stuckinarut2

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Congregation Pledge Disgusted Elder

by rrb2016 in

at the meeting the other night, the elder who had to read the announcements, which included the $$ info for the new donation arrangement seemed downright disgusted as he read the announcements and asked for the vote.

he said, "well, here is another organizational change" as he read the letter about the discontinuation of the 2nd meeting during co visit.

then after they voted, he said if you have any questions ask this other elder as if he wanted nothing to do with it.

stuckinarut2

I hope you were being sarcastic 'iown mylife'?

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There is no Santa Claus , no Easter bunny , and NO PARADISE!

by stuckinarut2 in

witnessing yesterday, i had a few little ones in the group chattering away excitedly to me about the things they look "forward to in the paradise":.

"i'm going to have three horses, a big house and lots of pretty flowers etc".

after i left, it hit me "like a ton of bricks"!......this is no different to the way that kids "in the world" believe in a santa claus, easter bunny, tooth fairy etc.... then they wake up when old enough and realise that it was all lies...make believe....stories etc, all told to them by parents and older ones!

stuckinarut2

All I did say was..."we'll, we can't just take the house and horses.... they belong to someone else...we would have to buy our own after working hard to earn money"

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There is no Santa Claus , no Easter bunny , and NO PARADISE!

by stuckinarut2 in

witnessing yesterday, i had a few little ones in the group chattering away excitedly to me about the things they look "forward to in the paradise":.

"i'm going to have three horses, a big house and lots of pretty flowers etc".

after i left, it hit me "like a ton of bricks"!......this is no different to the way that kids "in the world" believe in a santa claus, easter bunny, tooth fairy etc.... then they wake up when old enough and realise that it was all lies...make believe....stories etc, all told to them by parents and older ones!

stuckinarut2

wow ucantnome! That is spot on!

It makes no difference according to wt theory as to whether or not you will get resurrected hey? All that die get to the paradise, so why slave now?

It seems that the living Jws are the only captives!

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There is no Santa Claus , no Easter bunny , and NO PARADISE!

by stuckinarut2 in

witnessing yesterday, i had a few little ones in the group chattering away excitedly to me about the things they look "forward to in the paradise":.

"i'm going to have three horses, a big house and lots of pretty flowers etc".

after i left, it hit me "like a ton of bricks"!......this is no different to the way that kids "in the world" believe in a santa claus, easter bunny, tooth fairy etc.... then they wake up when old enough and realise that it was all lies...make believe....stories etc, all told to them by parents and older ones!

stuckinarut2

Yes, it made me both angry and upset...

I love the kids in our cong....but I am so sad that they live with a fairy tale view of the future, while thinking that everyone who is not a witness now is evil and worth being destroyed! (even the expression "being destroyed" just rolls of the tongue of witnesses doesnt it!?)

I woke up to reality while in my very late 30's....when the strength and opportunities of youth are slipping away....

Therefore, I hate to see little ones in witness families are going down the same path...

I feel like screaming out "you have youth, strength and opportunities now ....pursue them and enjoy the gift of life!"

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There is no Santa Claus , no Easter bunny , and NO PARADISE!

by stuckinarut2 in

witnessing yesterday, i had a few little ones in the group chattering away excitedly to me about the things they look "forward to in the paradise":.

"i'm going to have three horses, a big house and lots of pretty flowers etc".

after i left, it hit me "like a ton of bricks"!......this is no different to the way that kids "in the world" believe in a santa claus, easter bunny, tooth fairy etc.... then they wake up when old enough and realise that it was all lies...make believe....stories etc, all told to them by parents and older ones!

stuckinarut2

Witnessing yesterday, I had a few little ones in the group chattering away excitedly to me about the things they look "forward to in the paradise":

"I'm going to have three horses, a big house and lots of pretty flowers etc"

After I left, it hit me "like a ton of bricks"!......this is no different to the way that kids "in the world" believe in a Santa Claus, Easter bunny, tooth fairy etc...

Then they wake up when old enough and realise that it was all lies...make believe....stories etc, all told to them by parents and older ones! Some are angry about that.

Well, our "parents" (the organisation) has been telling us "kids" fibs as well!

Makes me angry!

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Would You Become A JW Again If Local Congregations Could Become Independent?

by Space Madness in

jw
friends

for those who still believe in god, if local congregations could break away from the watchtower would you consider becoming a witness again.

this would mean no more governing body, circuit overseers, watchtower magazines, and each congregation could have its own "new light".

most of us left because of the control (no college, disfellowsipping) but if the watchtower was out of the picture, all of this would disappear.

stuckinarut2

It sounds like the op just misses the social side of things...?

if real thought is put into it, then jw's are not jw's without the "organisation" behind them...

go join another church if you feel a spiritual need...or a sports team or social group if you want like minded friends....

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Bible Atrocities

by Trapped in JW land in

i really can't wrap my head around how people can still consider god loving with such atrocious biblical accounts such as, 1 samuel 15, (god ordering the slaughter of amelikite baby's and children) 2nd kings 2, forgot the verses (god sending bears to maul 42 children) and many others.have you ever asked a witness or anyone elsewhat they think about these accounts?

what was their response?

i'd love to ask one, but unfortunately i'm still physically in the cult and i wouldn't want to raise any suspicions.

stuckinarut2

So the bible says a few times that "god is the same yesterday, today and into the future". "He doesn't change etc..."

So, how can we live in an enlightened time, based mostly on the premises of "Christian teachings and morality", and yet look at such contrary accounts as being 'OK'? Would yew be ok allowing someone to act in a similar way in our society, just because they say they have "gods blessing"? NO! They would be punished....

Also, 'cold steel', if you are trying to be a good Christian witness and defend such accounts on a forum like this, you have already disobeyed the very same god (and his supposed organisation) by even discussing matters on an "apostate" website forum!

What are you trying to prove?

Desperate for some field service time hey?

Pathetic ... Trying to defend such atrocities!

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Watchtower publications with corrected titles ;)

by processor in

over the decades, there were many watchtower publications with misprints on the cover.

here are the corrected versions.. .

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stuckinarut2

Hey Kate, you are right...I am stuck...

But I already put that fake letter re "counting of hours" on the notice board. (complete with official letterhead)

It stayed there for over four days...then was taken down...

Bit childish I know....

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Convicted paedophile allowed to grill his victims at Jehovah's Witness meeting

by Sapphy in

http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/convicted-paedophile-jonathan-rose-grilled-7151197.

oh my goodness, i'm so angry i can't even speak!

"women who complained that former jehovahs witness elder jonathan rose, 40, had molested them as children relived their nightmares in front of him after he was released from jail".

stuckinarut2

they should not have sat there through it!

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17 calls? Are you kidding me?!?!

by Jon Preston in

well my wife and i still arent attending meetings....we first agreed to go here and there...oops.

anyways we missed the last meeting and suddenly our phone blew up!

it was like 17 missed calls!

stuckinarut2

It depends on the elder / servant body....

And recently of course the last co visit had a special meeting encouraging all inactive to be followed up by the elders and servants...