Posts by stuckinarut2

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Oh the irony! The elder, a car accident, and me....

by stuckinarut2 in

oh this is just worth sharing!.

so , as many know, it has been two years since i have attended any meetings, conventions, etc....nothing...cold turkey.. the hassles and problems the elders threw our way were monumental....so many details i could share, but suffice it to say, we stood firm and kept our dignity and poise and reminded them of "appropriate boundaries ".

one elder in particular has since spared no effort in ensuring that malicious gossip and slander has been spread so that witnesses have avoided us like the plague!.

stuckinarut2

Hi all,

Thanks for your replies!

A few questions were raised by ones here:

Is the "we" and "us" referring to my wife and I? Yes. We are both out, and while I respect my wife's journey may be a little different to mine, she does see the society more for what it is. In fact she used the expression in a conversation "that was when I used to drink the cool-aid" a while back!

Also, Island man's idea of how it could be spun in an "experience" is fantastic! I can see that happening now! Funny.

Oh someone asked "if this good account of me would have been spread as well amongst witnesses"? Well, I know for a fact that the field service group who were out the very next morning were talking of the families accident, but NO comment was said about the fact that I helped them. The one brother who still talks to me was keenly telling me the account of their accident until I said "yes, I know...I was there" (and told him the rest). He said "we didn't hear about you". In fact that group of witnesses walked right past my home that very next morning while doing the territory! I was in the front yard gardening, and NO ONE even looked over...

Oh and others asked "what if the roles were reversed?" Well, many will have seen my post some months back that I was on the side of the road, and a carload of witnesses I have known for decades drove right past!

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Oh the irony! The elder, a car accident, and me....

by stuckinarut2 in

oh this is just worth sharing!.

so , as many know, it has been two years since i have attended any meetings, conventions, etc....nothing...cold turkey.. the hassles and problems the elders threw our way were monumental....so many details i could share, but suffice it to say, we stood firm and kept our dignity and poise and reminded them of "appropriate boundaries ".

one elder in particular has since spared no effort in ensuring that malicious gossip and slander has been spread so that witnesses have avoided us like the plague!.

stuckinarut2

Oh this is just worth sharing!

So , as many know, it has been two years since I have attended any meetings, conventions, etc....nothing...cold turkey.

The hassles and problems the elders threw our way were monumental....so many details I could share, but suffice it to say, we stood firm and kept our dignity and poise and reminded them of "appropriate boundaries ". One elder in particular has since spared no effort in ensuring that malicious gossip and slander has been spread so that witnesses have avoided us like the plague!

Despite the fact that we are kind, generous and caring people, the elders have attempted to malign us at any opportunity...and I'm not being paranoid...trust me....it's real.

Seriously, if anyone wants to know more, let me know....

But, the other week, quite randomly, i was driving and came across a car accident! It had just occurred, and I recognised one of the cars: that elder and his family! So without hesitation I stopped, and genuinely atttended to them, and despite his look of shock on his face, I offered any help they needed, including transporting the family and offering to help with the aftermath.

I genuinely did not act in order to prove a point, nor be smug or whatever. But it did make me wonder whether he feels bad for maligning my name or spreading gossip for two years?

Remember, this is someone and his family I have known for decades. Someone I have been close to and genuinely liked. I didn't change as a person simply because I found out disturbing things about the society. No, but they changed...they took it personally and made out that I was evil.

Maybe they will see that true human kindness is not dependant on whether someone is a witness?

What did Jesus say about the Good Samaritan? Wasn't it someone NOT from the same faith, but rather an "apostate" that showed compassion?

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Beards - September 2016 Watchtower

by Listener in

the issue of whether beards are acceptable or not is addressed in the september 2016 watchtower - well sort of.

it is as clear as mud as to whether they are allowed in places like australia, usa and britain.. 17. what are some factors that may affect whether a brother wears a beard?17 what about the propriety of brothers wearing a beard?

the mosaic law required men to wear a beard.

stuckinarut2

Beards must be wrong...Conchita wears one.....

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A Must-Watch video for all those trying to break free or fade!

by stuckinarut2 in

for any who may be fading, or trying to break free from the society, or those who fear how things will transpire , please do yourself a favour and watch this video!.

it is long, but worth the investment in time, for it will help in many ways.. its called "coming out" by theramin trees, and for those who "come out" about recognising the truth of the society, it will help.. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mj-8ocmtb_8.

stuckinarut2

Glad you liked it Zappa.

Many of their videos are very clever!

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A Must-Watch video for all those trying to break free or fade!

by stuckinarut2 in

for any who may be fading, or trying to break free from the society, or those who fear how things will transpire , please do yourself a favour and watch this video!.

it is long, but worth the investment in time, for it will help in many ways.. its called "coming out" by theramin trees, and for those who "come out" about recognising the truth of the society, it will help.. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mj-8ocmtb_8.

stuckinarut2

For any who may be fading, or trying to break free from the society, or those who fear how things will transpire , please do yourself a favour and watch this video!

It is long, but worth the investment in time, for it will help in many ways.

Its called "coming out" by Theramin Trees, and for those who "come out" about recognising the truth of the society, it will help.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MJ-8ocmtb_8

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Another WT quote taken out of context from Author

by LevelThePlayingField in

in this weeks mid week meeting the society is trying to explain why humans are a higher level of being than animals and then they say this: .

12 “so, to me how precious your thoughts are!

o god, how much does the grand sum of them amount to!

stuckinarut2

Great pick-up LTPF!!

Well done.

Yes, even school children are taught that a quote that doesn't credit the source is not credible! It may as well be made up!

If that source you have found is the one the society used, then yes, once again they have "quote mined" a partial comment to make it say something other that it was intended!

No different to the classic Ramah Singh case....

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I feel slightly demonized after watching this

by rebel8 in

jw
friends

https://www.facebook.com/officialanttix/videos/1344960652199711/.

“the essence, the soul, of disco was shown to be free,“liberated” sexual expression….satan is manipulating this world for his own purposes, shouldn’t we expect that he would also use the world’s entertainment in his efforts to turn people from true worship?” awake 1979 dec 22 p.20.

to cure me of the demons i just caught, maybe i should say 5 hail marys look at jw dot org 3x and put a napkin on my head the next 5 times my husband is in the room.

stuckinarut2

Just a few weeks back, witnesses in New York held a fancy dress party in the disco theme! Pictures were posted all over social media!

Many who attended are bethelites, and ones who have been used in official society publication pictures!

Oh how times have changed....

See, disco was just a fashion that has come and gone...no big deal, but as usual, the society made it a taboo thing....

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Daily Legal News: 9th District partially reverses Jehovah’s Witnesses molestation suit - (Zalkin case. Decision mostly in Plaintiff's favor)

by AndersonsInfo in

9th district partially reverses jehovah’s witnesses molestation suit.

tracey blairlegal news reporter published: september 20, 2016. a lorain county trial court erred when it ordered the west congregation of jehovah’s witnesses to produce certain documents for discovery in a child molestation case.. however, the trial court was correct in concluding the majority of documents that were compelled are not protected from disclosure via the clergy-penitent privilege or the first amendment, according to a recent decision by the 9th district court of appeals.. former west congregation member elizabeth mcfarland sued the lorain-based church in 2013 for negligence, ratification and fraud by omission/concealment.. according to case summary, mcfarland was a member of west congregation from 1997 to 2001, when she was 10 to 14 years old.

mcfarland’s parents told church elders that scott silvasy, a fellow member, had molested their daughter for several years.. silvasy died in 2003. mcfarland claimed elders never disciplined him or reported the issue to their superiors, and discouraged her parents from doing so.. in her suit, mcfarland said church elders were aware silvasy had previously molested a minor and was a danger to her.

stuckinarut2

Again they just seem obstructive by not complying!

This is about children's safety GB!

If the society wants to give a "good witness", surely the wisest thing to do is to comply and be cooperative with such enquiries! By being argumentative and non compliant, they just come off looking guilty and heartless!

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