i just wanted to share a perspective related to my experience with leaving the jw.
at this point, i have been df'd since i was 18. i'm 25, happily married with 2 fantastic children.
after being miserably at odds with my parents and extended family, i've come to some realizations as follows.. i struggled with the conditional nature of my parent's love- talking to me until it bothered their conscience, then cutting me off.
Welcome Derrick!
Beautifully expressed post. Thanks for sharing.
Your observations and comments are Spot On! I couldn't agree more with the things you have expressed.
Just keep your dignity and self worth. Recognise that you and your children do NOT have to play the games or by the rules imposed by witnesses. THEY have the problem-not you.
Much love and support to you and those close to you!
i posted the elders training school video of how to conduct a judicial committee on my youtube channel last night.
it got me thinking of the hypocrisy of the whole thing.
and also how in their own publications they ridiculed the pharisees for the way they dealt with jesus... which is the very same manner they use on the flock.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lzmgjjpafk.
Disgusting abuse of power, and flies in the face of Christlike love and grace.
The very premise is wrong. They assume guilt and want to see a "sinner" grovel before three men behind closed doors. The prying questions into ones personal life is appalling and breaches so many appropriate boundaries!
The very fact that the society has a book of secret instructions for elders smacks of cult like behaviour.
bob dylan has been awarded the nobel prize in literature.
i wonder if they'll let him sing at the ceremony.
http://www.msn.com/en-us/music/news/bob-dylan-wins-2016-nobel-prize-in-literature/ar-aaitpmb?li=bbnb7kz?ocid=ansmsnnews11.
Yep, I heard that Kanye West has also been nominated for the "dopest rhymes" category of the Nobel Prize....
i have just returned from visiting friends and family.
when i was disassociated my parents had contact with me a few months before my dad was diagnosed with cancer.
i was reinstated 20 months after his funeral and then they disfellowshipped me 5 months later as they are convinced i had not changed my life enough to be a jw again.
And yet the society has the audacity to say "we are NOT a cult"
'in order to extend mercy, the committee must be convinced that the wrongdoer has a changed heart condition and that he has a zeal to right the wrong and is absolutely determined to avoid it in the future.'.
shepherd the flock page 91. i remember this is one of the first things that concerned me as an elder because it seemed to sound like a person is guilty until proven innocent rather than 'love believes all things', especially given the word 'convinced' appears in bold.. then in a training video one elder said something like 'unless we are convinced of repentance the shepherd the flock book says we must disfellowship'.
that was the begining of the end for me as i thought surely true christians would reason the other way round and show mercy wherever possible.. any thoughts?.
Or what about Lot, who committed incest with his own daughters...yet that was not just forgiven, but he is actually held up as a biblical example and faithful man!
Obviously that conduct is disgusting and repulsive.....so what would happen if a judicial committe was formed back then?
the big day is two days away when she will say "i do".
i knew this day would come someday but as a mom you just want to hold on even though i did everything to train her to be very independent.
she has been making most of her own decisions since middle school.. she moved away 5 years ago but still was totally mine till 2 years ago when mr. wonderful appeared in her life.
Wishing you all a very happy and successful day!❤️
in their sick and twisted bubble that they live in, the jehovahs witnesses clearly have no idea about the logistical nightmare of disposing of 7.5 billion corpses.. when i heard an elder once say that it will be a joy to clear away the wicked from the earth, he actually had a smile on his face.. can they even begin to imagine what 7.5 billion dead men, women, children & babies looks like?.
"let the eye feel no sorrow".
sick bastards..
You all have it wrong!
The GB will ensure all bodies are destroyed like this:
into dust and vapour
'in order to extend mercy, the committee must be convinced that the wrongdoer has a changed heart condition and that he has a zeal to right the wrong and is absolutely determined to avoid it in the future.'.
shepherd the flock page 91. i remember this is one of the first things that concerned me as an elder because it seemed to sound like a person is guilty until proven innocent rather than 'love believes all things', especially given the word 'convinced' appears in bold.. then in a training video one elder said something like 'unless we are convinced of repentance the shepherd the flock book says we must disfellowship'.
that was the begining of the end for me as i thought surely true christians would reason the other way round and show mercy wherever possible.. any thoughts?.
Steve2 said it well: "To succeed as a JW, you virtually have to 'play the game' if you wish to be shown mercy because otherwise most elders would not be able to 'read' you actually are contrite."
The society is based on Outward appearances in all matters!
popping in to say hi.... been away from the forum for a long time.... had some serious health issues starting at the beginning of this year.
on the mend now, and getting back into the swing of things.... great to be alive!.
Welcome!
yes, it is great to be alive. Nice comment!
no matter what we go through, there is always something to be happy about and greatful for each day.
and it felt wonderful!!.
i went into the city to where i knew there was a "cosmopolitan witnessing" trolley, because i wanted to ask a simple bible-based question.
the trolley was attended by an elder and a sister who was another elder's wife.
Im tempted to ask trolley attenders this:
"With the worlds attention on the USA elections, does your religion have a preference as to who gets in?"
Of course they will probably reply that they are "neutral in all world political affairs" right ?
Then I would steer the conversation towards whether they should be involved with the United Nations?
You see where I'm going here?
Then steer it toward whether flags are appropriate for Christians to display.
You all see where I'm going here too don't you?
It could make for an interesting conversation!
