Posts by stuckinarut2

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97 Columbia Heights For Sale

by wifibandit in

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdyjb_v4gye.

http://imgur.com/a/yhraf.

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stuckinarut2

Yes, they are appealing to the very culture and lifestyle that has been criticised for over a century!

Hypocrisy at its finest!

Come on guys....and any witness defenders out there: tell me it's not true!

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Worship of Men and Emphasis on Titles

by HereIgo in

i remember a few years back at a circuit assembly, a few bros were introducing themselves to the co, they made sure to mention that they were an ms or an elder from such and such cong.

i was also an ms, but was the only one that introduced themselves by just my first name.

i was so irritated and blown away at the arrogance by these bros, trying to impress men with titles!

stuckinarut2

Oh yes!! Great thread!

This ALWAYS bugged me.

The hypocrisy between what is said and what is practiced is outstanding in this regard.

The position one has is EVERYTHING in witness wold! Titles are EVERYTHING!

So too is making it known when one does something for another. So much for "let not your right hand know what your left is doing"!

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The physical effects of Cognitive Dissonance

by stuckinarut2 in

most of us here have gone through, or are going through the various stages "cognitive dissonance".. this is a term used to describe a situation where our minds, and hearts just know that something is "not quite right", and therefore we find ourselves in a muddle trying to reconcile the things we know with the things we are hearing or being told.... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/cognitive_dissonance.

so just wondering, how many of you found yourselves (or still find yourselves) becoming phyiscally ill in some way during the time of fading?.

i know that when i look back, for several years even before i was awake to the many issues and facts about the society, i would feel ill at assemblies or conventions.

stuckinarut2

Hi all!

Most of us here have gone through, or are going through the various stages "cognitive dissonance".

This is a term used to describe a situation where our minds, and hearts just KNOW that something is "not quite right", and therefore we find ourselves in a muddle trying to reconcile the things we KNOW with the things we are hearing or being told...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cognitive_dissonance

So just wondering, how many of you found yourselves (or still find yourselves) becoming PHYISCALLY ill in some way during the time of fading?

I know that when I look back, for several years even before I was awake to the many issues and facts about the society, I would feel ill at assemblies or conventions. Often serious migraines would occur. I would put it down to the stresses of the day or getting ready or travelling there etc...BUT....

Now too, when I observe witnesses, I see that SO MANY of them are not happy...or seem so VERY STRESSED out in their daily lives. Like life is such a chore or burden - not a joy. Is that cognitive dissonance at play?

Thoughts? Experiences?

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Petr Muzny: A Law Professor Explains His Faith

by konceptual99 in

this is absolutely feckin' priceless.. https://www.jw.org/en/publications/videos/viewpoints-origin-of-life/petr-muzny-law-professor/.

in yet another appeal to authority, jw.org has trotted out a professional to vouch for creation.

this guy is a law professor.

stuckinarut2

Oh the irony is absolutely outstanding!

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JW's know how to guilt trip....

by HereIgo in

when i left the org, the jw's tried their best to guilt trip me.

some of the questions i was asked and things i was told:.

"how could you possibly be happy outside of jehovah's organization?

stuckinarut2

How about the classic : "you must be a secret sinner if you choose to leave the truth"

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Disassociation revealed what type of man my father really is.

by Paul Mooney in

i began my exit from the jehovah’s witness organization about 5 years.

i was a 4th generation born-in, with all the baggage that comes with having the “spiritual heritage” attached to the group.

i was an elder/bethelite/pioneer/whatever other useless privilege there was, i had no family or friends outside of the organization… my entire life was that org.

stuckinarut2

I was giving more thought to your post, and please forgive me, but I must say:

Just go and see him.

No raised voices or arguments toward other members of the family...just go and say "hello"

You are entitled to do so, and you know he will be receptive.

Time runs out...people are not always with us...so perhaps just pay a dignified visit and don't allow anyone to take the conversation in a direction that causes issues.

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Disassociation revealed what type of man my father really is.

by Paul Mooney in

i began my exit from the jehovah’s witness organization about 5 years.

i was a 4th generation born-in, with all the baggage that comes with having the “spiritual heritage” attached to the group.

i was an elder/bethelite/pioneer/whatever other useless privilege there was, i had no family or friends outside of the organization… my entire life was that org.

stuckinarut2

WOW!!

Best post ever! Well done Paul!

I also was told by a wise person when I left "stay dignified, because you never know what effect your actions will have on many, many others...and you may never know of it!"

I guess that is why the society tries to demonise any who fade or disassociate by painting us as wicked or sinful! To try and stop the ripples from spreading! Cult behaviour 101!

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Coming to a Kingdom Hall near you

by FatFreek 2005 in

putting it simply, kingdom halls are no longer the property of a local group of the folks that paid for and constructed it.

the lender, the watchtower society, now says that once a mortgage is satisfied, that congregation must then declare a resolution which says it will continue to make payments, usually equal to the amount they were paying on the mortgage.

and they must do so indefinitely.

stuckinarut2

Yes, this was yet another of those "what the hell?" moments for me?

The premise used by the society that "an equalising would take place" and that other halls would be paid for is just the fancy way to sell the idea to the flock.

The opening post summed it up very well.

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Memorial Attendances This Year

by steve2 in

have attendance figures at this year's memorial been released yet, including number of partakers?

sometimes the kingdom ministry (now called christian life and ministry) provided local figures say for the country.. for two to three years the worldwide figure has hovered around the 19 plus million, with a drop off in attendance last year.. just wondered if there has been any change this year or if the downward trend has continued?

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stuckinarut2

very interesting!

yes, I have not seen any figures as yet either!

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CO visits me today

by Chook in

i'm at home and hear knock on door , i sneak and look i see two men and recognise one voice and go back into lonunge and ask wife ( who is inactive believer) does she want to speak to elders ,she says no ,then literally 3 minutes has pasted another knock the 3 minutes seemed like an eternity.

so brave heart me think fuck it i'll answer ,i invite them in for coffee, i recognise one older man he is a unique elder who i genuinely was fond of when i was in his name is andrew ,the other guy i didn't recognise we will call harry ( not real name australia doesn't have that many cos with his same name).

so i think to myself i will tread lightly and not cause to much of a fuss for the wife's sake, but my personality is very the opposite of treading lightly ,as you read my threads you will realise i'm not timid.

stuckinarut2

Wow!

Well done for not cowering in fear before them.

They are after all just men.

The ONLY power they have over you, is that which you allow.

By the way, Im deeply sorry to read about your friend who's son hung himself. That must be a devastating experience.! Was that family in Perth when that happened?