was going through the book that is currently being studied at midweek meetings.. paragraph 18 of chapter 11 reads.... a second area of moral refinement involves themeasures taken to keep the congregation clean.
sad-ly, not all who accept jehovah’s standards of conductand dedicate themselves to god loyally stick withtheir decision.
some eventually have a change ofheart and willfully rebel against those standards.what is to be done about such ones?
Good pick up!
Yes, this form of official teaching gives license to witnesses acting with judgement, suspicion and a critical eye on one another! Let alone those in the community.
Such statements do indeed show the true nature of the society.
They have "added to the bible" just like the scribes and Pharisees did!
a thought occurred.... witnesses face a constant mental quandary (or have to do mental gymnastics), because every person they meet, talk to, interact with etc will all die soon!
(according to the society's teachings anyway).
so this must play havoc as they try to keep an emotional distance from these ones.
A thought occurred...
Witnesses face a constant mental quandary (or have to do mental gymnastics), because every person they meet, talk to, interact with etc will all die soon! (According to the society's teachings anyway)
So this must play havoc as they try to keep an emotional distance from these ones. Effectively, people have to be "de-humanised" from a witness's viewpoint so that they don't feel bad when those ones are killed...
"Dead man walking"
so we all know of some (in)famous quotes that the wt has said in recent years.. the one that comes to mind is: (this is just from memory, so please feel free to add the proper links / references).
"we must be willing to obey the direction from the gb no matter how strange it seems from a human standpoint".
so, how does that "direction" / "command" to obey the gb fit in with feb 2017 statement:.
Can someone find the actual quotes? I can't seem to find them again.
there is not much to be analyzed.
in a cult enviromment the leader will always look up for himself.
he would never hesitate to break every rule to save his own skin.
Easy:
They will just takes lots of different fractions at the same time (that end up becoming whole blood again)
so we all know of some (in)famous quotes that the wt has said in recent years.. the one that comes to mind is: (this is just from memory, so please feel free to add the proper links / references).
"we must be willing to obey the direction from the gb no matter how strange it seems from a human standpoint".
so, how does that "direction" / "command" to obey the gb fit in with feb 2017 statement:.
So we all know of some (in)famous quotes that the WT has said in recent years.
The one that comes to mind is: (This is just from memory, so please feel free to add the proper links / references)
So, how does that "direction" / "command" to obey the GB fit in with Feb 2017 statement:
Surely the contradiction is obvious?? "obey us, even though we have often been wrong"
Please feel free to add the correct quotes in context.
thier talk at this summers district conventions about shunning faders was a bit unclear and many said it was pointing out that only jws were to shun wrongdoers not specifically faders.
this new broadcast makes it now obvious that those who leave the meetings have left jehovah so therefore they are to be shunned as a form of discipline.
there can be no mistake that they do not want any of thier cult members associating with faders or those that have left the cult.
Well said DD!
november broadcast is up:.
https://www.jw.org/download/?fileformat=mp4&output=html&pub=jwb&issue=201611.
we learn interesting things.
Wow!
Just wow!
Seriously, any witness who watches this stuff and doesn't have a secret "what the hell" moment in their minds is honestly brain-dead...
How is shunning NOT a fulfilment of the bible's words "that they will have a lack of natural affection"??
Hey, we are not even DF or DA, but just faded out, and yet we are treated like lepers....because the slander and gossip has gone into overdrive about us! We are avoided on the street. So this sort of conduct actually proves that the society has no true love.
Keep making these videos for those inside WT. It will only make you look more stupid to anyone who is waking up.
It also shows the Hypocrisy of what they produce for internal consumption compared to what they say for those in the real world! It is completely at odds with the information they try to portray to those outside!!
the reason i ask this is because we heard reports that greenlees was kicked out of bethel because he was one and then we heard reports that another one, jaracz i believe was one all though it sounds kind of iffy to me.. 2 out of i don't how many total gb seems kind of high so i'm thinking that perhaps the percentage is quite higher as this would explain to a degree why the gb have written in clauses to keep the organization from reporting them to authorities.. it is true that part of the reason they remain silent to authorities is because of the reproach it brings to their precious corporation but i think that is only a small part of the reason and perhaps there might be a bigger reason maybe quite a few have been over powered by their darker side and have engaged in this behavior but because of denial and delusion they will not confess and willingly encourage cover ups.. just speculation i know but i'm starting to think that there is a very dark side to all of these guys hidden by their persona(jungian) that is making them stoop so low as to implement these very bad policies..
Threads like these just play into the idea that those who leave the society are "mentally diseased" and "untruthful"
There is nothing to be gained by such speculation.
well today was the big day.
we finally let the cat out of the bag to the in-laws about watchtower.
previously there were unknown rumors being spread about me and today i found out why the wife and i are being shunned.
Well done for stating your stand with clarity and dignity.
If we can all keep our dignity and poise in these sort of situations, whilst also relaying simple facts, it must play hovoc with the minds of those we speak with!
They have been told that all who leave "are unhinged or aggressive or mentally diseased" , so when they see us composed and logical and dignified...it must make an impact.
Best wishes to you!
study article: who is leading god's people today?
start of paragraph 12.. standard version: "the governing body is neither inspired nor infallible.
therefore, it can err in doctrinal matters or in organizational direction.".
Well said DD!
The fact that they expect witnesses to "preach" something that can very well turn out to be incorrect, is one of the most disturbing things ever!
And they say "this is NOT a cult!"
