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  How many times jehovah is said in a prayer

  by Normalfulla in

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  so there was this particular elder in my hall who when giving a prayer would say "jehovah" waaaay to much it was ridiculous, we ended up having a count every time he gave prayer, most of the time it was 15-18 but once he topped 20, if u say it out loud 20 times you'll see how weird it is, like when do you ever in a conversation say someone's name that many times in 2 or so minutes,!

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  BINGO Blondie!!

  Great comment!
  
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  "But I was just following order and directions!" The 'outsourcing' of personal responsibility

  by stuckinarut2 in

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  2. beliefs

  a thought struck me that throughout history people have often claimed that "i was simply following orders and directions" when it comes to their actions or beliefs.. instead of using logical thinking skills to determine if the course of action is correct, they just assume that it is based on a superior telling them so.. think of someone handling finances for a corrupt boss.

  if asked to hide sums of money illegally, can they just say to the authorities "i was just following directions"?.

  or as we know, war crimes have occurred in history and the same excuses have been used.. similarly, it seems that witnesses "outsource" their thinking abilities to the society and gb and think and act exactly as directed...even if such changes dramatically as have many, many teachings and beliefs.. think of all the far out and strange things in the society's history.

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  A thought struck me that throughout history people have often claimed that "I was simply following orders and directions" when it comes to their actions or beliefs.

  Instead of using logical thinking skills to determine if the course of action is correct, they just assume that it is based on a superior telling them so.

  Think of someone handling finances for a corrupt boss. If asked to hide sums of money illegally, can they just say to the authorities "I was just following directions"?

  Or as we know, war crimes have occurred in history and the same excuses have been used.

  Similarly, it seems that Witnesses "outsource" their thinking abilities to the Society and GB and think and act exactly as directed...EVEN if such CHANGES dramatically as have many, many teachings and beliefs.

  Think of all the far out and strange things in the society's history. We know that if any witness disagreed with the "truth" they would be punished for it. Yet, if just a short time later the society changed its teaching, every witness must change too!

  So where does personal responsibility to make an informed and educated decision arise??

  Can witnesses just say "I was following directions"?

  What would the creator really think of blind obedience based on "outsourcing" ones choices?
  
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  How many times jehovah is said in a prayer

  by Normalfulla in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so there was this particular elder in my hall who when giving a prayer would say "jehovah" waaaay to much it was ridiculous, we ended up having a count every time he gave prayer, most of the time it was 15-18 but once he topped 20, if u say it out loud 20 times you'll see how weird it is, like when do you ever in a conversation say someone's name that many times in 2 or so minutes,!

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  It's used more as punctuation by many!

  I used to also cringe at the prayers that sounded like the brother was using the prayer to review the entire meeting, and teach Jehovah something while talking to him!
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  Beards

  by HowTheBibleWasCreated in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i have a beard.

  i spend a month on vacation with no worry from the congregation overseas of course.

  i grew a full beard now and with glasses i finally have posted my picture on facebook og me... next to half life 2 cover showing i look like gordan freeman lol.

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  Apparently the Almighty Creator Jehovah made an error when he made males to naturally grow a beard.

  The Governing Body know better than Jehovah, and will counsel him over his obvious mistake in creation!
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  Something funny about Armageddon

  by evilApostate in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  years ago, when i was still a publisher, i had a very interesting conversation with a lady in the field service.

  we were talking about punishment for sin and so on.

  she believed in hellfire.

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  Yes, if death means that sins are forgiven and a resurrection is assured, then EVERY witness should be HAPPY to see all people die....right?

  Why be upset when a tragedy occcurs that takes lives? Simply be happy that those killed people "are guaranteed a resurrection "

  (Insert sarcasm alert here)
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  Mark the Date: March,20 2017 Austrailian Royal Commission to Reopen Its JW Child Abuse Inquiry

  by Room 215 in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i don't know whether anyone else has posted a thread on this development:.

  http://www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/case-study/10908a67-70c5-4103-94cc-dac096fdb585/case-study-54,-march-2017,-sydney.

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  Will this be broadcast live via the web as before?
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  Mark the Date: March,20 2017 Austrailian Royal Commission to Reopen Its JW Child Abuse Inquiry

  by Room 215 in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i don't know whether anyone else has posted a thread on this development:.

  http://www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/case-study/10908a67-70c5-4103-94cc-dac096fdb585/case-study-54,-march-2017,-sydney.

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  Fantastic!

  Wait and see how the society spins this as "more falsehoods and persecution"
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  Watchtower's "New Light" re Babylonish Captivity, November 2016 WT

  by Room 215 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  has anyone noticed the wt's most recent shell-game revisionism in the november study tractazine, relating to the shifting of its "babylonish captivity" doctrine, from a 3 1/2-year period around the ww 1 years, to a period now spanning about 16 centuries, or from the 4th century (constantine's legal recognition of christianity) to 1919?.

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  So they "came out of captivity " starting with CTRussell??

  Really?

  So his pyramidology teachings and pagan symbolism was ok?

  We're Rutherford's ideas about the "ancient worthies" being ressurected back to live in Beth Sarim ok?
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  Your work is not in vain! Thank You!

  by de-opresso-liber in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  been lurking since early this year.

  there are many of us out there (at least in this area, central u.s.) who are waking up and crossing the line to talk to each other about it.

  in our area, several elders, ministerial servants and pioneers are actively and openly sharing info with each other daily.

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  Welcome to the "real life"

  Once we allow ourselves to be free of the FOG (Fear, Obligation, Guilt) that a lifetime as a witness has burdened us with, life truly begins.

  Contrary to what the society teaches, we DO NOT become evil sinners either. We actually become less judgemental of our fellow man and community, and more inclined to see the good in this world.

  Life is NOT bad outside of the witness bubble.
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  So, how did the 'beard article' go over yesterday at your congregation?

  by neat blue dog in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  at mine the conductor was somewhat awkward and minimal and there were nervous chuckles from the audience.

  two people, including an elder, gave reasonable comments that it's okay as long as it's not extreme styles, etc.

  but then another one of the elders commented that nothing has changed and they still aren't proper locally.

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  Once again, it's all about outward appearances....