Yes, great thread!
Those born in certainly were raised with a distorted and judgemental view of life! It affects a young developing mind in a way that is truly harmful! Some never recover from it.
from a psychcentral (run by mental health professionals): a familiar item on a list of 7 types of parental abuse :.
spiritual abuse.
has the child experienced:dichotomous thinking – dividing people into two parts: those who agree with the parent and those who don’t.
Yes, great thread!
Those born in certainly were raised with a distorted and judgemental view of life! It affects a young developing mind in a way that is truly harmful! Some never recover from it.
we have seen that the society falls back on the line "it is the victims right to approach the authorities" during all the abuse claims.. they use this excuse to try and defend the passive lack of action in failing to report suspected cases of abuse.. a comparison came to mind:.
if we came across a person lying in the street who says they were hit by a car, would we say "it is your absolute right to call the paramedics and police"?.
or would we take the initiative and call those authorities ourselves to help the person?.
Prompted by some further research I have just done into this topic, I had to bump this thread.
I just read quotes from elders letters issued through the last decade about "keeping matters confidential" to protect the reputation of the Organization!
Cant the Almighty do that himself?
i came across this paragraph about the causes of ocpd and it occurred to me that jws as a religion do reward ocpd traits.
they insist you adhere to rules and behaviours to the impairment of social and family activities.
perfectionism, strict moral code, lack of generosity.. so does this religion cause this personality disorder or does it recruit people who suffer from it?.
And what is COPD St George?
on the jw.org website, the watchtower is sending out a strong warning with regard to emoji's & flirting.. my personal view is that the org is now trying to micro-manage just about every aspect of people's lives!.
https://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/family/teenagers/worksheets/friendly-or-flirtatious/.
ps: 'quotes are from julia, ellen and tara.
Yes wifibandit! The way the article quotes only girls is appalling in the extreme!
It shows that sexist attitudes that still exist. It is the "girls fault"....
appalingly manipulative
for those claiming that- how much thought or research have you done?.
objective or non-objective?.
ever read the other books claiming to be from god?
I once saw a tweet someone put up.
"for most people, the bible is like a software licence. They just scroll down and press "accept" without actually reading the content!"
i copied the following two items from jw dot orgs site entitled “dates of prophetic significance” at site below:.
http://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1200271564.
once held to be year when ‘true lord and messenger of the covenant’ came to spiritual temple (mal 3:1): w10 3/15 23; w07 4/1 22; w07 12/15 27-28; jd 179-182; re 31-32, 55-56; w92 12/1 13; w89 4/15 7; w89 7/1 30; w87 6/15 14-15. .
Spot on Nicolaou! Specific doctrine matters very little nowadays to witnesses.....It's more of a community thing....
Ask the average witness to explain 1914/607 etc and they won't be able to!
an illustration came to mind.
we know that the society often talks about the need to "eat healthy spiritual food".
but imagine that we are speaking of literal food.
An illustration came to mind.
We know that the society often talks about the need to "eat healthy spiritual food"
But imagine that we are speaking of literal food. We know we need to eat from all food groups, and consume the right items in order to be healthy. We should not limit our intake from just one source or one food group.
So imagine if you were told from an early age that the ONLY source of food was Macdonalds? True, you might eat a variety of items from their whole menu, but it is still all their food.
What if you were told there were no other sources of food? (No grocery stores, no farms, no restaurants, no markets) Worse still, if you learned of other places, you were consistently told that food from those places was "poisonous, bad or unhealthy"?
So too with the society! They tell witnesses that they alone are the source of "true spiritual food". No other sources of knowledge are acceptable or appropriate. In fact all others are BAD, and that even enquiring about them is punishable...
What a sad situation!
in another thread, one of our members made a comment that caught my attention.. i have been trying to put my finger on a practice amongst the org and witnesses in general.... as soon as someone does something well, accomplishes something, or excels at something, the atmosphere effectiveley 'kicks them in the gut' to bring them down.. anything that makes a person grow or develop is blatently discouraged and therefore self esteem is squashed!.
the constant message telling a witness to be 'humble' is designed to suck any sense of growth or 'betterment' out of a person..... therefore this leaves the average witness to be a blubbering mess of insecurity and instability completely dependant on the organization...kind of like a 'battered-wife' scenario.... .
Bumped
i know you know who i am by now...the one that forgets to use paragraphs...anyway, all over all the jw sites (not jw.org).
it's been asked if you knew this or that why did you stay...it's been discussed how no matter what you hit the friends with, failed dated, new lights, pedophiles, etc, yet they stay and you can't reason with them....so what i've come up with is that most stay because they feel it's god's org.
and they were chosen in place of the jews.
Well said punk! Well said indeed!
well, very little, to be honest.
the structure and commitment of the ministry provided discipline necessary to my life.
therefore, i did it, as required, and felt some sense of fulfillment at the bible study stage.. i do like talking to people.
Aww, don't we miss the JOY of smugly telling everyone in the territory that they will DIE unless they take magazines from strangers who come to their doors unannounced ??