Posts by stuckinarut2

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Did you ever have a discussion with an apostate that helped your journey out.

by jwfacts in

there seems to be a number of different ways that apostates try to get jehovah's witnesses realise they do not have the truth, ranging from subtle comments to aggressive attacks.

do you have any that looking back helped you finally leave.

some of the methods include:.

stuckinarut2

As a "good witness" I would never give even the slightest credibility to anything said by one who had left the org, especially one who displayed the cliché "apostate" tendencies.

The best result comes from a casually dropped, calmly spoken, BRIEF, sentence.....that encourages the mind to dwell on something.

One lady who had left simply said a sentence to me once that was similar to the famous Aldous Huxley quote: "Facts do not cease to exist just because they are ignored"

That stuck with me.....

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The org and going beyond what is written

by CitizenofEarth in

hello there.. my father just claimed that the good thing about being a witness was how they just let the bible interpret itself.

now i know the irony in this statement, but i dont know what to show him that he just cant discard with some ignorant excuse.

any ideas?

stuckinarut2

The bible records Jesus as condemning the religious leaders of his day for "making the word of God invalid because of their traditions" (Mark 7:13)

The Society / JW are the very epitome of that!

They have "gone beyond the things written" IN SO MANY WAYS

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so a week or so ago we received an invitation for a jw friend's wedding anniversary party in the mail.it was addressed to 'the andersen family' (and not just mrs. andersen & baby andersen) which was pleasant of course, but not a huge surprise given the type of person who said friend is.. however, i already prepared myself to be uninvited after all.

some time ago, there was a congregation farewell party/get-together.to my surprise, i was invited too!

an elder specifically came over to my house to tell me.then some weeks later, he visited again, being terribly sorry but the invitation was revoked as the congregation got concerned over my possible presence.. with that debacle in mind, i wasn't surprised to receive a message from my friend 'hey are you at home?

stuckinarut2

Wow!

Sorry to hear.

This just proves how rampant gossip and slanderous talk is amongst witnesses!

They will just revel in the opportunity to speak in a derogatory way about any who no longer attend meetings!

Oh, but this isn't a cult of course.....

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BBC interview about 1975 - never heard this before..

by defender of truth in

for any lurkers who don't believe the watchtower taught that the world would end in 1975... rare jehovah's witnesses 1968 interview "armageddon and 1975" london watchtower rep speaks to bbc.

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=npmt-ml-m-g. --------.

but where will this system of things be by that time?

stuckinarut2

Great thread!

Thanks for bumping.

It is simply mind blowing to see how the society is attempting to white wash history with the 2017 convention video!

HOW can they possibly think they can get away with such crafty manipulation??

Is Collateral damage acceptable?

by stuckinarut2 in

we know that the teaching that witnesses adhere to is that the "universal issue of sovereignty" is the battle between jehovah and satan.. this belief means that the almighty is happy to sit back and allow the world to go to pieces in order to prove his point..... so does that mean all the collateral damage and deaths are all ok?

should we be tolerant of god sitting back while children are killed by extremists?.

or does this prove that god isn't really there?.

stuckinarut2

We know that the teaching that witnesses adhere to is that the "universal issue of sovereignty" is the battle between Jehovah and Satan.

This belief means that the Almighty is happy to sit back and allow the world to go to pieces in order to prove his point....

So does that mean all the collateral damage and deaths are all ok? Should we be tolerant of God sitting back while children are killed by extremists?

Or does this prove that god isn't really there?

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Integrity over living a lie....

by Happier in

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hey to everyone here... so i have never been one for writing much of my feelings down for other people to see.

this however has become so important to me and i may be able to help someone who dares go looking for answers some place other than the jw.org website.

first of all i would like to thank anybody and everybody who had the courage enough to write their experience in the organisation.

stuckinarut2

Bumped for a new overlapping generation of forum members....

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Watchtower Library Won't Run

by sfbayarea in

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friends

i have 4 computers that are all running windows 10 version 1703.. 1. laptop that came with windows 10 was updated to version 1703 - watchtower library runs fine.

2. laptop that came with windows 8 was updated to windows 10 for free - watchtower library runs fine.

3. laptop that came with windows 7 64 home was updated to windows 10 for free - watchtower library does not run.

stuckinarut2

The holy spirit is preventing its use by someone who frequents apostate forums...

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This Fight ....Rutherford

by jaydee in

more rutherford ramblings.. https://drive.google.com/file/d/0b2ndok8xmmt-b3zhwndrtuf0bk0/view?usp=sharing.

stuckinarut2

Yes, Rutherfords manner was so awful and tactless!

We found an original copy of his 1940 booklet "The Fifth Column" in the State Library last weekend.

It was so full of blatant statements designed to incite anger towards the govts of all nations. After reading it, there is no wonder why "persecution" took place on JWs!

They brought it on themselves with this awful tirade of comments.

They poked the hornets nests....then complained when they got stung!

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Keep on being hardline Watchtower, you utter weltbags

by jambon1 in

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friends

wow.

their 2017 convention programme at times eclipses the horrific shambles of 2016. how hardline can they be?.

its my opinion that the harder they push, the more people they will lose.

stuckinarut2

Yes, they want to thin the herd....and keep only the brain dead non thinkers....

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One of the most defining thing that made me question JW church after 27 years was seeing the funeral discourse outline.

by Chook in

it gave the poor bastard who past away no respect, hardly mentioned anything about the deceased.

yet hijacked the event with cult propaganda..

stuckinarut2

I realised only recently that I never really had the chance to REALLY grieve for those who had died! As a good witness, we were supposed to hold it in, otherwise it might imply a lack of faith or belief in the resurrection hope!

It wasn't until attending a proper funeral (ie non witness) that I experienced the cathartic and appropriate grieving process that humans need to go through!

It makes me wonder how many witnesses have bottled up feelings that they have never dealt with....and what emotional damage that does to them....